[comicart-l] Re: Gene in January, Day Twenty Five
- From: RAYMOND CUTHBERT <rcuthber@xxxxxxx>
- To: comicartl <comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 22:39:08 -0700 (MST)
The other thing is that Marvel quite quickly settled on 20 pages of story per
issue while DC was usually 23-24 pages of story per issue.
Even if three of DC's pages were 2/3 pages - that made a whole page count of
22-23 pages.
When Marvel did the two half-pages, they were actually down to a total of 19
pages per issue, spread out over 20 story pages.
Best wishes!
- Ray Cuthbert
From: "Miki Annamanthadoo" <mik1surf1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "comicartl" <comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:57:50 PM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Gene in January, Day Twenty Five
I am more with Ray on this - the DC pages were closer to 2/3 than half.
I have two late silver age DC pages in my collection like this.
The typical image length on a page in this era was 15 ins. The image length on
these two are 9.5 ins.
I have one 'twice up' DC page like this and it has an image length of 12 ins
vs. 19 ins for a typical twice up page.
Miki A
On 01/26/2021 10:24 PM Jim Ottaviani <comicart@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I recently read (or rather, skimmed…see below) a run of late 1960s Flash
comics, and to me it looks like their end-of-chapter/end-of-story pages are
indeed half pages. So I’d say this wasn’t just Marvel.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think those books hold up. At all. Not that Marvel
of the era was necessarily great literature — except for the Lee/Ditko
Spider-Man run, obviously… :) — but the characters and plots are at least 2D.
The characters in the Flash books I read are barely one-dimensional, and the
stories are, well, barely even lame most of the time.
They do feature some excellent interior art and a bunch of truly memorable and
fun covers, though!
Jim
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On Jan 26, 2021, at 20:13, RAYMOND CUTHBERT < [ mailto:rcuthber@xxxxxxx ;|
rcuthber@xxxxxxx ] > wrote:
The half-pages were only at Marvel.
DC always had more pages of story than Marvel although DC would use the bottom
third of a "chapter" or at the end of short stories for ads.
Best wishes!
- Ray Cuthbert
From: "Mark Nevins" < [ mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;|
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To: "comicartl" < [ mailto:comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;| comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:59:41 PM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Gene in January, Day Twenty Five
Sean, I’ve been mostly lurking on this mailing list for a long time.
You are posting the best posts ever seen here in my time, and second place
ain’t close. Please collect these posts into a booklet!
As a fellow Panel Page Guy I will say I own no half-pages but I am fascinated
by them. (Did DC do them too?)
Mark Nevins
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On Jan 26, 2021, at 15:00, zzutak < [
mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;|
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ] > wrote:
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Gene in January, Day Twenty Five
Captain America #137 page 12 by Gene Colan and Bill Everett
[
https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1697821 ;|
https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1697821 ] ;
There was a period of a year or two when Marvel published 19 page stories
instead of 20-pagers, by slicing one full story page in half and running ads on
the bottom of each half page of art (check out additional images, below). This
is one such page, and laughably enough, it's not the only one in my collection!
Some collectors only buy covers and splash pages. Lacking both the self respect
and the stock portfolio of guys like that, I am quite delighted to collect
panel pages. If one of these half pagers comes along, I'll collect the heck
outta that, too! Laugh, clown, laugh, but there's n̶o̶ not much paralyzing,
emotionally crippling shame in my game.
This delightful Colan/Everett half-pager is one I was outbid on at an ebay
auction many years ago. I later discovered that the winner was one of our
hobby's good guys, who was attempting to reunite Cap #137 in original art form.
Had I known that, I wouldn't have bid at all, because there is no greater
calling in life than to help a fellow collector reunite a Colan/Everett story,
as there is no greater satisfaction than the feeling of accomplishment and
overall well-being that you experience after selling/trading me your
Colan/Everett Black Widow art.
Over a few years I was lucky enough to assist Cap #137-Guy in sourcing several
more pages from this issue for his collection. Collectors who attempt to
reunite stories are a curious breed, and we can usually recognize one another
across crowded rooms by an Ahab-like quality in the eyes. When Cap #137-Guy
decided to put the tiller to starboard and let the white whale slip away, he
was gracious enough to drop me a line.
Swerve me? The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my
soul is grooved to run. Over unsounded gorges, through the rifled hearts of
mountains, under torrents’ beds, unerringly I rush! Naught’s an obstacle,
naught’s an angle to the iron way!
Pax,
Sean
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