Hi Pamela!
A correction....* IACP does NOT require training to become a member*, nor
any other requirement. "Membership in IACP is open to *anyone*....as a way
of supporting the vision of the Collaborative Practice movement. "
http://www.collaborativepractice.com/_t.asp?M=8&MS=12&T=Membership
I do not think of IACP as an 'open practice group'. I do not think of
IACP as a 'practice group' at all. I do not think its membership
requirements are instructive for a 'practice group'; or even necessarily for
a practice 'organization'. Those groups or organizations that have set
'objective' membership requirements draw them not from IACP's 'membership
requirements', but instead from the aspirational 'Standards' that IACP set
out in like 2004 and, I believe, have reviewed regularly since then. Being
'advisory', some practice 'groups' and many practice 'organizations' have
selected some, modified some, and disregarded some in creating "membership
requirements".
[ For what it's worth, my rough parlance is that a 'group' becomes an
'organization' as soon as there is one member who does not personally know
and trust, and is not known and trusted by, every other member of the
'group'.]
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Pamela Freeman
<pamelafreeman@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
Hi:
For our state organization ... when I use "open" I mean no standards for
membership. Currently you need to be a licensed attorney, a licensed mental
health professional (with listed licenses on our standards), or a licensed
or certified financial professional (also listed licenses and
certification). Our standards under our Standards for Membership do not
allow a professional - like an executive coach who is not a licensed mental
health professional to become a member.
IACP has an "open" membership in that it allow anyone to join (if trained
etc.) and do not limit it by profession.
We are exploring what moving towards a more open membership model -- where
membership is not limited by profession -- would look like and I thought it
would be really helpful to reach out and see what that looks like.
Thanks for your help!
Pam
--- In CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <CollabLaw%40yahoogroups.com>, Kevin
R.Scudder <kscudderlaw@...> wrote:
"rules" or bylaws
Closed = Practice Group not open to new members absent invitation per the
established by the group.be some basic
Open = anyone is free to join the meetings without invitation. There may
qualifications such as IACP membership and a minimum of 40 hour mediationtraining, but anyone is
free to join.
Kevin
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On Sun Jan 30 22:17 , 'Aaron Welt, Ph.D.' <awelt@...> sent:
Could you explain what you mean by "closed" and "open" groups?
Aaron Welt
Kevin R.Scudder wrote:
Hi Pam.
It sounds like you have a good handle on the issues you face and your
questions are good ones.
They require more time then I currently have to give input on but I
will say that there is an IACP Practice Group Comm that is working on
sharing different practice group structures and experiences. The work
is not done
yet, but is in process.
Personally, I think there is no practice group structure that is one
size fits all. I am in two closed practice groups and one open
practice group, Cascadia.
http://www.cascadia-collaborative-divorce.com/index.html
I like all three for different reasons.
The open group is filled with wonderful practitioners, new and
experienced, and we have a $120 annual dues req. due to the fact we
have a website on which we can post our names and information. The
only rule is that
to be on the web site each member cannot miss more than three meetings
a year. We rotate the Chair and often have co-chairs. In each meeting
we generally have a case de-brief and some educational topic, and at
least one social a year.
Given that most of the members also are part of closed groups we do
not feel overt pressure for by-laws and too many rules. We simply want
a place to be supported, to welcome new practitioners, and to continue
our
training.
Kevin
Kevin R. Scudder
Law Offices of Kevin R. Scudder
9706 4th Avenue NE, Suite 320
Seattle, WA 98115-2157
(206) 524-7828 Phone
(206) 524-1302 Fax
On Sun Jan 30 18:20 , 'Pamela Freeman' pamelafreeman@...
sent:
Hello All:anyone know of any practice group, or similar collaborative
Is anyone a part of a practice group that has open membership? Does
organization, that has an open model for their membership, different
from - or in
addition to - IACP's model? It would be really helpful to see how
other states or organizations approach membership in a collaborative
practice organization. It would be particularly helpful to be able to
see the by-laws
and any standards (for membership, practice, practitioners, ethical
conduct etc.) that have been developed for an organization with an
open membership model.
have experienced with open membership. I would also welcome any
I would also like to know about any problems or challenges that you
thoughts or advise from any organization that has successfully travel
this
path toward open membership already.
significant time over the years discussing a number of ideas - in a
Our group (I am part of the Membership Committee) has spent
number of different directions - for changing our membership
requirements. Many
of these ideas are really interesting and inspiring (although
sometimes contradictory). I feel certain that many collaborative
practitioners and organizations have considered, and struggled, with
many of these same ideas
and concerns (the thread about certification certainly felt familiar).
has spent a great deal of time exploring some of these issues. Carl
I am part of a small group, from a few different committees, that
Michael was kind enough to join us during one of our meetings to
discuss these
issues and we very much appreciated his thoughts and his time. Even in
this small group, however, there are some strong feelings and opinions
in many directions on this topic. Additionally, any change in our
membership requirements will likely require a change in our by-laws
and, therefore, a vote from not just the Board of Directors, but also
the entire membership.
Past changes to the membership requirements required a great deal of
planning and was, at times, a very sensitive and combustible issue.
Because of this, our small group hopes to move forward on this issue
in an
informed and thoughtful way. Please let me know if you are part of a
collaborative group that has open membership or if you can point me in
the right direction.
Thank you so much,
Pam
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