grumps, (btw, great name) i took a stroll through your little gallery. first off, nifty page and layout (i'm a web mistress and code writer, can't help noticing) second off, you have the beginnings of cools stuff there ^ .^ i'm wondering if you'll let me use a few of your renders for colages? particularly gr-ifs-050808-003a, 4th one strait down on the first page i think, which is really giving me ideas all, you people and your auto-rendering scripts and stuff ^ _^ i'm almost jealous, but those sorts of things tend to get out of hand when i touch them. digital packrat and all...my combined personal files on this comp already surpass 1 Gig by themselves. and my chaoscope stock isn't even the largest part of my images file one more thing, give me about 15 min after this e-mail gets out and i'll have another extreme unravel up at http://kaze-ryuujin.deviantart.com. this one looks like sticks up untill you actually render it, so it'll be shown in multiple stages. I have not yet begun to Unravel ~Kaze