we have the Robert Shaw song but I must get it to Pat.
I am ordering Beethoven tomorrow so by end of April it should be here with
Pat. THANKS for caring to start earlier than Sept 1.
We all can start earlier if Pat finds it convenient.
West side Storyl movt 1 and the I feel pretty and america thats all
THANKS
Carolyn
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 6:24 PM Eugene Brady <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
To Carolyn and All, HI! It's Gene.
Carolyn, I enjoyed your letter to all of us very informative and well laid
out.
Our schedule sounds exciting and challenging.
I loved your concert titles: "Music in the Key of We" and "Cabaret and
Cabernet".
Which leads me to two questions.
First - Will we be singing the "West Side Story" in its entirety?
And Second - Will I/we be able to pick up the new music (specifically,the
Beethoven and the Shaw)
earlier then the start of rehearsals? Perhaps, even next month when most
of us might have more free time?
I ask because I, unlike all you very talented youngsters, do not have the
gift of learning completely by ear.
My process is to study the music and text at the piano and then rehearse
with Sheridan's CDs.
Blessings on Nellie and Sheridan!
What are your Thoughts?
Thank you, Gene
Bless Carolyn too!
On Sunday, April 5, 2020, 11:54:10 AM MST, Carolyn Eynon <
carolyndirector@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Great idea! NIKKI WHEN CAN YOU DO A ZOOM MEETING
I can do it anytime
Let me know
John and I will arrange around your schedule.
I want the BEST sound but am uneducated as to the editing. JOHN will be
willing to try either/or.
I agree with paragraph #3.... but value the discussion on ZOOM.
I think most CES would participate once we text and email the goal;
deadline April 30 and then we put it on social media with NIKKI
Ill text Nikki now., John
Carolyn
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:47 AM John Wanat <johnwanat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carolyn,
Nikki's idea is workable, though different from the original model for
choral singing we looked at. The "Imagine" video Nikki refers to is a
series of solos sung one after another. The original video virtual choir
model has everyone singing their parts simultaneously. Each model has
pluses and minuses.
If we follow the "Imagine" model, there would be a series of solos, one
after another. The "Imagine" model has each contributor singing the
melody line. If we applied that model to "Tonight" there are about 10
logical "phrases" varying in length that would be sung by different
singers. Carolyn, you could assign who sings which "phrase," but that
person would sing the melody if the song is to have coherence. In this
model, each person would record a video "selfie," send email it to me, and
I (or someone more skilled than I) would join them together to create the
musically coherent video. Nellie's accompaniment could be heard by the
singer through earpods or headphones, and the singer's selfie would appear
to be a cappella in the selfie video. Or the accompaniment could be
playing as the singer solos.
The virtual choir model has everyone singing their parts for the whole
song individually and then merging them all. Here everyone does a selfie
(audio only or audio+video) while listening to Nellie's accompaniment on
earphones/earbuds (so that we don't get, say, 12 singers and 12
accompaniments recorded). Singers would send me the selfie video and I
would merge the tracks from all the singers and one track of the
accompaniment to get the simultaneous sound of a choir singing different
parts. If we did this approach we could start by just using the audio
portion of the selfie video to get a sound recording. I don't quite yet
know how to merge the videos, but we could probably figure that out down
the road.
Carolyn, I guess it depends on what kind of recording CES wants. It's not
either/or. We could try both of them. But we need to decide which one
goes first. If you want to do "Tonight" we start by getting Nellie's
backing track. Then tell me which way you want to go.
It seems from the responses in this email thread that we have at least 2
basses, a tenor, 2 sopranos and a couple altos. We could start with them
and add others as needed. I'd be happy to talk through the recording
process on the phone with anyone.
Perhaps this may be the time to get a zoom conference together to talk
about the project.
John
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:49 PM Linda <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sounds fun but I am still trying to get all the tech stuff to work.
Borrowed a webcam but audio is not working well
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 4, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Carolyn Eynon <carolyndirector@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
HI NIKKI AND CES
THIS IS very easy because I can take the music and assign 4 m to each
singer and then on the last page we all sing the last full chord; TO NIGHT
John are you game? NIkki you bring us possibility with Johns research and
time... SO LET ME KNOW AND ILL START WORKING>
this is lovely IMAGINE
We can even do a REWRITE if Eileen wants to get busy, TO NIGHT TO NIGHT
---- ---- ----- ---- ---- -----????
I love the idea, NIKKI and JOHN
Nellie, we will add your piano to it...
Everyone know the key...
so use a pitch pipe.... and sing what part you learned in March...
I want you to all feel comfortable so respond to all in this email
please. REPLY ALL
C
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 4:25 PM Nikki Hellwig <nikki.hellwig@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Here’s an example of what celebrities did to sing a song together. I’m
assuming everyone sung the whole song and then it was spliced together. But
maybe we can break it up into sections for the singers. I don’t think
anyone right now is expecting an amazing production to be produced by
people since we’re all in quarantine. So something fun and simple like this
while singing “tonight” should be doable! See the link before for
celebrities singing “Imagine”
https://youtu.be/omEDLKS5pbY
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2020, at 5:55 PM, John Wanat <johnwanat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carolyn,
You're the music director. "Tonight" sounds great. If Nellie can get
the accompaniment to me or everyone and we sing to that, it should sound
very good. And be easier to work with. Excellent idea.
John
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 5:51 PM John Wanat <johnwanat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carolyn,
You're the music director.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 5:19 PM Carolyn Eynon <carolyndirector@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I am now zoom capable. with webcam...
oh oh, now were in trouble.
Stay tuned?
John, the star spangled Banner is a very difficult song to sing in tune
because of the 4 pt men and 4 pt women.as well as Sarah and Harold do not
know it, yet.
May I suggest the song TONIGHT from westside. starting with the women.
I can have NELLIE PLAY IT ON HER PIANO, send it to you electronically? and
then have 8 people (2 on a part) record.
thanks for GARAGE BAND but I am on a Dell, but have webcam so can make a
zoom meeting when ready.
Im grateful for help and eileen can record at my house .
Sheridan could assist, shes a techie too.
im here.
C
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 4:53 PM Eileen Mager <emagereq@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
John —
Sounds like a fine idea — a bit of an adventure, I'd say. And it might
turn out well, after we've gotten into it. I have GarageBand, but have
never used it — it came with the other stuff that came with my Mac. But
I'm game to give it a try, if that seems appropriate.
I also have FaceTime, which I've just used for the first time — not for
singing, but long-distance conversation. It worked fine — we could see and
hear each other quite well. So I would guess that you and I, for example,
could sing something together from our two homes using that, and record
it. See what we get. And when Carolyn has Zoom in hand, that might add
some more possibilities. More parts, from more locations.
I'll check around here, and see what I have that might be useful to you in
your experimenting.
Cheers!
— Eileen
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:56 PM John Wanat <johnwanat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carolyn and others have shared some videos and audio clips of musical
groups who have managed to perform together even though they were
physically apart. I'd like to know if anyone in CES is willing to
experiment in doing the same. Carolyn and I think that if we can put
together a performance or more this way, there would be some nice
benefits. First of all, we keep singing together. Second, we can offer
music to those in our audiences where we have their email addresses. And
third, if we get sophisticated enough, perhaps we could produce a CES
channel on Youtube for the duration of the corona season.
How do we do this? I certainly don't have all the answers, but with a
little help, we can get started. Last week I discovered that I had
GarageBand on my MacBook and began to play around with it. GarageBand is
an application that lets you lay down tracks of individual music and
combine them. As I am learning, you can also massage the individual parts
a bit to get a more professional sound.
A few days ago, I took a simple version of Wade in the Water and, using
GarageBand, recorded the bass, the tenor, and the soprano parts separately
using a built-in metronome to coordinate. Then I put them together and
they more or less matched up. This suggested that we could put voices
together though we be apart. I am attaching the MP3 version I produced so
you can see the result. Please don't judge it too harshly; it's just a
proof of concept recording.
Anyway, the next step is to put together voices from separate locations.
I would like to get at least one voice from each SATB group to use their
iphone (or android I think would also work) to record a video of the same
song, sung at the same pace, from the same score. Could I propose we use
the Star-Spangled Banner we pretty much have under our belt? Set a
metronome at 100 and start from the "O say" in measure 5 in the score we
sing from.
Ideally, we would individually sing to a track of the accompaniment, but
for now let's try singing from the score to the metronome pace.
You would record this as a video, but at this point the sound is more
important than our beautiful faces. In combining the voices, I will strip
off the video portion -- at least for now -- so that I can focus on the
audio. Then email it to me at: johnwanat@xxxxxxxxx I will try to
put the voices together and send you all the combined sound. Then, who
knows what would happen. Ideally we will be able to get the video back in
the final product.
I am hoping that there are some in CES who have done something like this
before (Steven, Blair, Ken, Pat?). If so, please let me know. Anyway, if
you are interested, send me a video and I'll get started.
Hopefully,
John
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Carolyn Eynon Singers
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Carolyn Eynon~Founding Artistic Director
Carolyn Eynon Singers
480-529-2630
*"Singing together connects people"*
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Carolyn Eynon Singers
480-529-2630
*"Singing together connects people"*
