>Subject: <CT> The Annual Nag >Seems to me I was writing a message with similar intent at about the = same >time last year. It's sad to see the decline of such a successful = project >as Calmira. For some reason, I was convinced that a website redesign >would bring the life back to the project. While I can see the short >sightedness in that, wouldn't it be nice to have a more current News = page >on the website? The recent post about Calmira being featured on the >Toastytech GUI page would be perfect for such a current looking article = or >message. I can see the hypocracy in this statement. (don't even try to >find my website nowadays) Just my two bits worth. Reid One thing I have mentioned several times over the years is that freelists does not even categories the Calmira list in their search. You have to use google to find it. I suspect that these days with fewer websites supporting win3 there are even fewer discussions about win3 applications. I wonder whether it is time to do one last archival website that focuses on "Win3" OS and adds in stuff like Calmira etc.... as the secondary subject. Either that or get the latest Calmira up on Simtel... but even their Win3 section will shrink to zero at some time. There was some great activity around long file names but I think the greatest loss for Calmira was that it never moved over to 'modding' a basic level Win95 so that it could run with Calmira's advantages on Win3 level machines.... Perhaps its time to join a wider community for Calmira and join in with some "retro_windows" list... though today that is going to be dominated by win9+ I suspect. Eitherway it might be usefull if we list here any sites, we know of or own, that feature Calmira related stuff as that would give us all the chance to review and reflect on the next move. Pete -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org