Well, nothing ever came of my message to dnsmadeeasy, but I had a phone conversation and email with the NOC crew at Cogentco about their router loop, and it looks like things are fixed. blj8.com, calmira.org, et all are all working again. -=Brian=- rm -rf /bin/laden -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org