Varkon does some cool stuff, but always seemed difficult to work in. if you do get good at it, could you send me a better screen shot for my page. the one i have is a little dated. > Varkon is one cad I want to learn. ;-) > > T. maRia -- Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS, and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings. http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy/ //www.freelists.org/list/cad-linux