For those that have signed up since I did this last, i'd like to say thankyou and welcome aboard! this groups is growing steadily as i new it would. although you are free to just sit back and read, if you have an idea or question it may be a while before someone else asks it. it might also give someone else an idea. so speakup! And thanks again -- Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS, and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings. http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy/ //www.freelists.org/list/cad-linux