I've managed to get Vellum 2.70 running, kind of... At this point 3D operations are flaky as hell The track ball no longer crashes the machine when called up, but if I try to use it to rotate a wire frame to see it from a non standard perspective, it doesn't turn off when I remove the cursor from the track ball window. Killing the process renders the maching unresponsive and I have to restart X. 3D extrude and rotate do not work at all but I have been able to save work. Somehow Vellum sees /home/ernie as "t" drive, odd behaviour as there are no Win partitions on the box. Win 98 partitions on the 98 machine are Samba mounted.(WINDOWS/C and WINDOWS /G at this time) Vellum 2.70 is a vintage 1994 application for Win3.1 and it does not add any dll's to Windows/System, they all reside in the Vel270 directory. Attached is a screenshot for Keith and anyone else interested. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/jpeg -- File: snapshot5.jpg