> -----Original Message----- > From: john kosty [mailto:john_kosty@xxxxxxxxx] >=20 > I still haven't gone through Varkon -- is it posted? > -- or OpenCascade. <<Slipping into Montgomery Burns > persona>> Oh, if I could just get my hands on > Revits'fired programmers! =20 Actually, AutoDesk only fired the marketing & sales team. The developer team is still intact; and they are great guys. :) > But seriously, folks, Revit > has some great features and I highly recommend a demo > for those not familiar with it.=20 >=20 > http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/section/0,,2436341-123112,00.html Yes. It's the best platform I've seen yet for the building industry. It's worth your time to see it, even if you're not in the building industry, for it has many modern ideas that are well worth looking into. It's core as developed by the same two guys who were behind PTC technologies, the ones who came up with 'parametric' and proengineer ten years ago. > This is what I'd like to shoot for, a'la > OpenOffice.org... It would be great if whatever direction is chosen that it be done in a way where non-technical people (i.e. us architects) can contribute more than just Art. If things were written in python, or better yet, done like the 'family editor' in Revit (where complex, intelligent content can be quickly generated without any programming via 3D modeling & defining parameters visually- almost like those 'visual programming' experiments, where people make programs by combining shapes and links and the computer translates that into code for them) then it would be possible for everyone to help out a lot more. This, I think, is a major downfall of most open source software. It's made by geeks, for other geeks, and as such it's development methods can be inaccessible to non-geeks. For example, much of what you can do in terms of data-tracking with Revit can be done with 2D CAD tied to some database; but I don't have the time to learn how to run a good database & don't have the money to have someone else set one up. Having it be made accessible to me via a well-designed tool makes it possible for me to use it. Just like Mandrake; I'm using it more and more. So now I'm learning how to make themes, and art, and such so that I might be able to give something back. Prior to using Mandrake, I tried to use Deiban, but couldn't get it to a workable state. Mandrake is easy to get working, so now I'm free to figure out what I might be able to do to help out as a non-programmer. Just something to think about. Jeffrey McGrew Designer Huntsman Architectural Group 50 California Street, Seventh Floor San Francisco, California 94111 Telephone: 415.394.1212 Facsimile: 415.394.1222