I find myself not using my touch very much at all. I have it sitting
in its case under my bed. I have no need to use a planner or address
book. I do like trying out new bluetooth speakers with my touch and
checking email or using pandora or skype. I set up my google home
using my touch and that was a pretty easy process.
On 3/8/18, Sam Joehl <blink183@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have used the planner and contacts before but generally tend to input new-------------------------------
information on another device such as my computer or my phone. I find the
syncing capability to be the most valuable. This is partially because I am a
professional and travel a lot and need to have access to my information on
any device. That option is not available on the Apex. If your Apex dies,
you're screwed and can't get the information off of it. This is why I
upgraded from the Apex to the Touch. The KeySoft apps could certainly be
improved but if you need access to your information in well-translated
braille in a single device then the Touch fulfills that need. As far as the
Google Assistant goes, I've found that the Touch doesn't do very well with
voice input. If you try doing a Google voice search or try doing any
recording with the Touch you will experience poor performance. This is
mostly due to the old hardware. The first thing HumanWare needs to do is
upgrade the hardware, as the antiquated components they use don't perform
well for modern tasks. When they release the next generation of the
BrailleNote, I'm sure the biggest new feature will be more modern hardware
that is still several generations behind the mainstream market. If you don't
want a touchscreen, then you're probably better off trading in your touch
for a Braille Sense Polaris or any of the other braille notetakers on the
market that doesn't include a touchscreen. The BrailleNote Touch is the only
notetaker on the market that does.
Finally, I streamed the NFB convention last year and heard Greg Stilson
before he left Humanware state that HumanWare is putting a lot of money into
R&D and that artificial intelligence is the wave of the future. Hopefully we
will see some AI come out of their future products. They will need some
powerful hardware in order to process AI however while still needing to keep
their costs moderately affordable.
-----Original Message-----
From: braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:28 AM
To: akp@sero.email
Cc: louvins1@xxxxxxxxx; braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [BNU] Re: how I use my touch.
Hi Ann,
I haven’t used the planner much. I usually just use the Google Apps,
although I haven’t tried the calendar app on the Touch. If Humanware would
provide the Google Assistant, we could use that to manage calendars, not not
really to look at them in detail of course. I’m pretty sad that the supposed
Victor Reader app doesn’t have even support for ePUB books, or the ability
to download Bookshare books. If an open source program like Emacspeak can do
it, then a company with thousands of dollars from Vocational rehabilitation
and consumers should be able to put forth the effort to make the Touch from
a “good enough” Android 4.4 device to something that is actually a delight
to use. I use it mostly as a Braille Display for my phone, because even
Apple with iBooks can keep my place in books without showing “bottom” at the
end of paragraphs so that I have to press the Next thumb key to advance to
the next paragraph. I really hope Humanware is better than this, given a 5.0
release of their Flagship blindness device just a few small features, no app
updates, and no fixes for what the Touch is good for, reading and writing in
Braille.
On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Ann Parsons <akp@sero.email> wrote:įĨŠËlĒļ?–+-ýšÚŠY^ž‹^ š&ķ ŽĨĻ Ę‹œj{§ēæėrļ›yČZ˛
Hi all,
I changed the subject line. I find I don't use my Touch all that much
either. You can play BARD books if you download the BARD app for Android.
Maybe that's why the Victor App hasn't been updated to include BARD
books.
I find I don't use my Touch because of a couple of reasons, and perhaps
this may help others. I find it heavy and clunky. I can't transport it
well because if I lock the screen, it often comes unlocked and I lose
battery life. In addition, I am still disappointed with the planner and
the contacts. I find that going through the options in the planner is
really clunky because it puts in what it thinks you want. Yes, you can
erase these by typing in the fields now, but really, why can't we just
have the fields blank so we can type in them ourselves without depending
on the touch to add in what it thinks we want?
Also, when making recurring appointments, the Touch screws up every time!
You tell it weekly, and it doesn't get the day right. You tell it
monthly, and it's always off by two or three days. Apparently, it can't
follow a calendar. It's not an acceptable planner. I live by my planner,
and it has to work. That's why I use the Apex for my calendar exclusively
now.
Same for the contacts. It's clunky.
I use the Apex when I want to go out because it's lighter, it has my
accurate calendar in it, and it's far more forgiving when it comes to
battery life and traveling.
I find that there is absolutely *no* info that I know of about programs.
Nobody on here talks about FaceBook, or Messenger. I don't know where to
get information on these. I'm fairly stumped about some of this stuff.
I'd like some kind of tutorial or info sheet about Facebook and Messenger,
most importantly, how the Hell to read the messages and how to respond.
Sorry to grouse like this, but really, I turned off my Touch last week,
and I haven't used it since I turned it on this morning to get the update.
Far as I'm concerned, you can dispense with the touch screen. That would
decrease its size and weight markedly.
Ann P.
Original message:
I really hope the members of this list can keep contacting humanware
and asking them if the touch can have an NLS user key to play bard
books. The lack of such a user key is one of the reasons why I don't
use my touch all that much. I forgot what Andrew's email is, but he
would be the one to email.
On 3/8/18, Devin Prater <d.prater@xxxxxx> wrote:
Well, I guess those features are pretty good, but I was hoping for
more app-specific fixes, like the Victor Reader app being able to
download and play BARD and Bookstore apps and keep playing in the
background and such. Ah well, better luck next time.
On Mar 7, 2018, at 11:03 PM, Sam Joehl <blink183@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You can view the release notes here:
https://humanware.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/braillenote/Touch/Rel
easeNotes/release/500/en.html
I upgraded to Version 5 and my hardware keyboard started working
again.
Prior to this I was experiencing degredation where the hardware
keyboard gradually ceased functioning and I was getting constant
alerts about apps crashing. I was even having trouble with the
TouchBraille keyboard where finger recognition wouldn't work and
spurious characters were being entered without action on my part.
It was getting to the point where I was ready to do a factory
reset. Updating to version 5 appeared to fix this issue. I suspect
that parts of KeySoft or Android had become corrupted. I tried
running a file system repair and deleting my cache in the boot
diagnostic menu but these did not fix my issues. I'm glad I was
able to resolve them without having to wipe my Touch, but it was
extremely frustrating to have to wait for a KeySoft update in order to
resolve them.
I would like to see a feature where an in-place re-install could be
performed without having to wipe the entire unit if you can still
operate it. Clearly this is possible since this is how the updates
are performed, but I would like to be able to re-install KeySoft
without having to wait for a KeySoft update to be released. With
individual app updates being released in the future, I suspect that
entire KeySoft updates that re-install core system files will not be
released very frequently.
-----Original Message-----
From: braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 1:52 PM
To: jldail13@xxxxxxxxx; braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [BNU] Re: braillenote touch 5.0 now available for download
I wonder ware you can get the release notes. I no longer have my
unit any more do to a problem I had a few months ago which is off
topic so will leave it at that.
Matthew
On 03/07/2018 11:18 AM, Jessica Dail wrote:
Hi all,
I'm writing to informm you that version 5.0 of the braillenote
touch software is now available for download.
The 2 major features in this release are:
â€Ē supported for both Usb and bluetooth keyboinds, for both
navigation and input.
â€Ē One-handed mode, this feature is useful for indeviduals who
are limited to the use of only one hand.
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