KNFB Reader preloaded for free on the Touch, right? OK and for those who
took advantage of the KNFB Reader's USD$20 price and bought it off the
Google Playstore, what happens then?
El 07/11/2017 a las 08:08 p.m., Roger A. Behm escribió:
Hi Andy,
you are not understanding what Greg Stilson is saying about the touch.
The special patent 7 inch touch screen is not used like a regular touch tablet or smart phone, but it is patent to do touch braille, meaning you lay all ten fingers on the glass for less than a second then lift them up and start typing like you have a physical perkins keys under your finger tips in grrade one or two, UEB or U.S. braille It does not matter where they fall on the touch screen.
The reason lots of young kids like typing that way, there is no sound what so ever, even when compared to a laptop keyboard.
you can if you want to do swiping with your fingers by turning off touch braille, but why suffer like the sighted or blind persons who use a smart phone or tablet.
The touch uses first letter navagation, just like on the apex, but offers so much moere.
The aps that work with nls bard or bookshare suck, but those were written for smart phones or tablets, while HumanWare is in the process of upgrading or re-writing the aps including the nls bard an dbookshare aps.
The touch has the victor reader software on it and when the nls key is put on the touch and they re-write the aps for bookshare and nls so books download to the Sd card or internal storeage drive, we have to put up with those aps for now.
The touch is the same as the apex but runs android and is the same weight outside its case as the apex, but 3/4 inches deeper from front to back.
having removable battery, removable internal drive, free upgrades for life, KNFB reader ap free and a 8 pixel camera, there is so much more it can do then the outdated apex and makes blind users more efficient then sighted folks.
I stil use the apex for some functions, but own 2 apex bt 32 units, 3 touch 32 units and one voicenote qt apex, since obviously I am a dealer for HumanWare for the past 17 years.
There is all kinds of information on the humanware support page you can download or play or read.
If you have any questions, call me at, 608-758-0933, and I can tell you the positive and negative about the touch or the HIMS Polaris android devices.
Regards,
Roger Behm
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- Original Message ----- From: "andy shields" <ashields2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 1:23 PM
Subject: [BNU] Upgrading from the Apex
Hi, everyone,
My workplace is switching to Office 2016, and the necessary training has shown some obvious ways that the Apex is outdated-a little to do with connecting to networks and other devices, and (not surprising) that worsening online issue in all directions because of the browser. It's also certain that sometime soon we'll be changing o"er to some more advanced version of Windows, and more "issues" are bound to appear. As my boss says, "you don't want to get even further behind the curve of technology and be unable to do anything about it." So, while I still have an open case with my state commission for the blind, I guess it's logical to move along to a more modern, multi-featured piece of equipment.
The short version of my reaction to this is that I'm just fine with the Apex; it does everything I need to do, with few complications, including more work-related items all the time. I don't even have many complaints about the browser, which probably means I'm unnaturally patient, and don't care about a lot of the social-media contexts that can be so limiting. I'm fascinated by the versatility of the BrailleNote Touch and impresped with all of the more up-to-date, inclusive things it can do, but there are areas, such as downloading and reading books, where it sure seems to me a case of "if it wasn't broke, why'd you fix it?", compared to the ease of that process on the Apex. Yes, I know, whole different "platform" and operating system.
Anyway, it looks like "the Touch" is where I'm headed, so I have three questions. I'm addressing them to this list because I need to do a little "comparison shopping", and I know a lot of you have experience with a wide range of "adaptive equipment"; my counselor from "the Commission" has almost none. First: is there a product (from HIMS or somewhere else) that would be similar to the Apex, but with a newer browser? I doubt it, or we'd be using it. Second: is there a general website, not promoting any particular company or manufacturer, where I could find a detailed comparison of notetakers and similar products, with features and prices? (Maybe something from AFB?) Full disclosure here: no, I don't much like the whole touch-screen-based direction things have gone, partly because it seems so needlessly roundabout. Having said that, no, I don't know how else you'd access a lot of these very visual things; yes, it's what people are using, so there's not much I can do about it; and we do have friends who are great with all of this, so it has a lot to do with familiarity. So, question three, which concerns the "BN Touch": we've been posting the "snapshot tutorials" on our Facebook page at work, and in all of them, Greg Stilson points out that he's using the screen to write Braille. Why would he (or any of you) choose that option when there's a keyboard available?
OK, that's it. I realistically expect that, as Humanware likes to remind us, there really isn't anything quite like the Touch, and that's where this will go. And yes, I am aware and appreciative of the fact that I'll probably have a device purchased for me because it's a work-related expense, just as I did the Apex, and that I'm very lucky, because this is an option many people will never have. Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
Andy
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