[brailleblaster] Re: Discrepancy in translation with UTD
- From: "Vic Beckley" <vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:20:13 -0400
Thanks John. That helps me understand a little better.
Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,
Vic
E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
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Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Discrepancy in translation with UTD
Hi Vic,
Don't try to use a UTD file for embossing. it isn't intended for that.
the advantage of UTD over "standard" translation is that it provides the
information needed to show which part of the print text corresponds to
each line of braille. It also provides for tactile graphics. andis the
basis for various conversions.
Eventually UTD will be the default, but the user will be able to specify
in the settings dialogue that non-UTD translation is wanted. Embossing
from UTD will also be provided.
John
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:29:28PM -0400, Vic Beckley wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> This does seem to be working. It is honoring the settings. Even decreasing
> the margins, I still can't get the book to translate into as few pages as
> when not using UTD, though. I haven't tried embossing yet to see if my
> settings work.
>
> Eventually will all translation be done in UTD format? If not, why would
you
> use it over standard translation? I am still not understanding this
> completely.
>
>
> Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,
>
> Vic
> E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:32 PM
> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Discrepancy in translation with UTD
>
> Hi Vic,
>
> The settings are in inches. You will notice that the paper width is 9.5
> and most of the margins are 0.5, except the left, which is 1 inch for
> binding. It certainly works.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Vic Beckley wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > I understand. That explains why my settings aren't being honored. Can
you
> > enter the settings in inches or do you have to enter pixels? What is the
> > width of a standard Braille margin? I will try this out as soon as I get
a
> > chance. Is it supposed to work now?
> >
> >
> > Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,
> >
> > Vic
> > E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 1:36 PM
> > To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Discrepancy in translation with UTD
> >
> > Here is a more detailed explanation of the discrepancy. It may be
> > instructive and even useful.
> >
> > UTD is a graphical mode. It is based on a resolution of 20 dpi at
> > present, although the user may be able to specify the resolution in the
> > future. It also operates on full pages, so braillePages is set to yes .
> > Because it deals with pages, it requires that the paper width, paper
> > height and margins must be specified. If you look at a recent
> > preferences.cfg you will see these specifications. Braille is monospaced
> > horizontally. The wieth of a braille cell is 5 pixels. Horizontal
> > spacing varies according to whether the braille cells in a line have 6
> > or 8 dots. If a line contains only 6-dot cells the horizontal spacing is
> > 8. If it contains even one 8-dot cell the horizontal spacing is 10.
> >
> > When utd is specified the cellsperline and linesperpage settings are
> > ignored. and the paper size and margin information is used. You can get
> > the number of cells and lines you want by calculating the paper size and
> > margins.
> >
> > The settings dialogue will eventually allow you to chose this
> > information, as will embosser setup.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 09:24:11AM -0400, Vic Beckley wrote:
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I don't know if you realize this or if it is significant at this point
> in
> > > development but when you translate a file in UTD mode it doesn't honor
> the
> > > PageLength and PageWidth settings. For example, with the book that I
> have
> > > been testing with, when I translate it not using UTD mode it is 449
> pages.
> > > When I translate it using UTD mode it turns out to be 625 pages. I
have
> my
> > > PageLength set to 26 and Pagewidth set to 42 as opposed to the 25 and
32
> > > defaults.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,
> > >
> > > Vic
> > > E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
> > Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > Developing software for people with disabilities
> >
> >
>
> --
> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
> Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> Madison, Wisconsin USA
> Developing software for people with disabilities
>
>
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John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities
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