In regards to bookshare, I too primarily use brf files, but there are times when you get some funky back translation errors, so it may seem clearer with the daisy files. If you have fairly new versions of kurzweil you can send files to the book port directly from within the program without having to manually convert the daisy into something else. If you don't transferring formats is not necessarily harder. It's just an extra step or two. After downloading a book via kurzweil, push control O for open, and it will ask if you want to open the last file you downloaded. Push y for yes, and then the file opens. At that point open the file menu with alt F, arrow down to save as and push enter, or save a few steps by simply pushing the letter A. At this point it asks you to type a file name, but it will already be filled in, so push tab once to the save as type box. From here you can either arrow to the format you want, or jump to it with the first letter, like r for rtf or t for txt. once you fine the format you want push enter. Give it some time and it will announce that file name X dot extension X has been saved in X folder. At that point you can transfer away. Now, if you don't have any version of kurzweil you can do it in other ways, but I won't go into that right now unless you need it. Have a nice day. We're supposed to be in for mounds of snow here. I hope so. Jersey hasn't gotten much snow at all this year. Tiff ----- Original Message ----- From: solsticesinger To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: question about the BookPort Thank you so much. You have helped me fix the problem. I had somehow managed to put myself in one of those folders, and couldn't get out. Now, I can. I'm using the brf files from bookshare. I kind of got the impression that daisy would be more complicated, and I wasn't quite up for that yet. Thanks again for your help. I'm going to save this message, in case I do this again. Shannon solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Tiffany H. Jessen To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: question about the BookPort Sorry, this is kind of long, but I tried to address all the possibilities/options. Tiff First, which format are you using? If it's the brf you can pretty much leave it alone, but if it's the daisy I'll tell you that the book port does support some types of daisy, like the ones from recording for the blind and dyslexic, but not the form produced by bookshare, so in that case you will have to convert it to another format. Secondly, have you already uncompacted the book before transfer? Third, are you using the transfer program to transfer them, or just using windows explorer? If the second, that will only work with some file formats, and since you're trying to send books from bookshare I'll tell you both formats need the transfer program. Next, during the process of transferring the file you should hear a kind of scale, and then at the completion of each file transfer you should hear a kind of quark coming out of a bottle type sound. Now, from within the transfer program, if when pushing alt F you still do in fact see all the files you have transferred, it is probable you have to look at the book port itself now. The book port won't work while it is attached to the computer so pull the wire. You will hear two audible sounds, one a windows sound signifying the disconnection of a USB device, and one coming from the transfer program itself. If you now push alt F those files will not be listed, and it may read your status line which says book port not connected. If of course, you closed the program before disconnecting the wire, then you will only hear the one sound. Finally, now focusing on the book port, using star or pound will arrow up and down the file list respectively, and pushing number two will start and stop reading the file in focus. Now I'll tell you that the book port already makes three items by default. One is the help file, and two are folders. One is a memo folder which you use for your voice recordings, and one is for your typed notes. In case you didn't get that far in the manual yet, you can turn the book port sideways and type braille on it's keyboard, and notes is the folder in which they go. Now, as you're arrowing up and down your list of files, if you come across a folder in which you're interested, you use the zero and pound keys together to open the folder , and then as usual you will use the star and pound keys to navigate up and down the files contained in this folder. Finally, to get out of that folder and into the parent folder you use zero and star together to close the folder. This is where I suspect your problem is. Since you only mentioned transferring files and not folders I'm suspecting you accidentally opened one of these previously mentioned folders, so use the star and zero and you will arrive back to the rout directory. I think that is all the possible problems, however if none of them work you can always reset the machine with the two and B buttons together. Worse, pull a battery. In both cases your files won't be lost. Finally I will congratulate you on your purchase. At first it does seem a bit odd to get used to using, but with practice I'm sure you will find it a wonderful device. It is a powerful little machine, and it's commands are very well thought out. I use the book port quite extensively, so if you have any more questions feel free to email me directly at tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or if you want me to look around I can find you the book port users listserve. Besides problems or questions on it's use, they often have a big say in what new features APH puts in the updates, which are free. Oh yes, I will also say that currently the biggest flash card supported by the newest non beta release is only two gigs, but if you plan to use audible files, like not only for music but also audio books and such, not to buy too many low capacity cards because the current beta has broken that limitation. APH has also said that that beta will soon be released, (like within a month), but if at some point you want to join the beta testers anyway, anyone can sign up. ----- Original Message ----- From: solsticesinger To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] question about the BookPort I just got a bookport today, so I can read bookshare files more easily. I listened to the manual, hooked the device to my computer, installed the software, and tried to send some files to the bookport. Every time I did this, the bookport would tell me that there were no files, even though alt F told me that the files had been sent. Does anyone have any ideas? Shannon solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxxxx