Hi Rick and others: I'm not Keith, Because since there was so much trouble with talking about the Book Port 2 prematurely, it was decided within customer service to adopt the pollicy of saying it has been put on hold indefinitely, until further notice and not give a date. Since posting that statement to the list several weeks ago, some of you have still tried to pinpoint a date and others have posted saying they've heard it could be a year or 2. We discussed this thoroughly and decided not to give a time estimate, which is what I've done. Now, here we are all again. If we say it'll be a year and then it's not, you'll get upset. If we say 1 year and it's 2, then you'll get upset. This was exactly why we thought it better to say "indefinitely" or "put on hold." From the statement: APH has been working on the successor to Book Port, dubbed Book Port II, for several months. Unfortunately, hardware problems with one of the suppliers has put an unavoidable delay in the process. We now expect that Book Port II will not be available in the near future. It is difficult to predict with any accuracy when the newly redesigned device will reach the marketplace. APH will do everything in its power to reduce this time to market, but we want to be honest with our customers and allow them to make plans. Hmmmm. I don't know what more I can do? I don't know what more I can say! Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT American Printing House For The Blind 1839 Frankfort Ave. Louisville, KY 40206 PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>> rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 11/09/07 12:14PM >>> Keith, I can live with that and completely understand your situation there. My question then is why is anyone at APH telling the public the product is shelved permanently? If you say it's not then I believe you. I'd just like to know why there is a difference in what we are being told from APH itself? Thanks, Rick -- Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net and my web Blog at: http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: blind_geek_zone-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put subscribe in the subject line. Contact info: Email - rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx & rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype - rharmon928 MSN - rharmon928@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEITH CREASY" <KCREASY@xxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: BP 2 Being up front No one can promise you that there will be a Bookport II. I can only say that planning and development is still going on and that the delay in the BP2 had nothing at all to do with any other product (such as the Stream). If I were to tell you that it would be a reality in nine months and something bad happened then you'd just be disappointed and perhaps angry with me. It is always true with computer technology that better, faster, smarter machines will be developed and if you are always waiting for something better then you'll wait forever. You just have to decide how important being able to play NLS books right now is. NLS still has plans to distribute a player to it's patrons at no cost. Who knows what it will be like exactly or if it will be better than other products but it is something that is coming. Other manufacturers also have plans to play NLS books and NLS has a path to get those players up and going. If you want an NLS player now then the Stream is the only choice, if you think you might do better by waiting or don't think it is so important to play NLS books immediately then something better may come along, but there are no promises and I'd take any companies advanced announcements about products with the caveat that plans are plans and sometimes don't work out. Regards, Keith >>> lana5@xxxxxxxxxxx 11/09/07 11:48AM >>> If there isn't going to be a bp 2, then, ok, but admit it. If they really are going for a better product, then good for them, and we can wait a while, but Please, one way or the other! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: BP 2 dead and buried > Rick, I mean no offense here. I want to make that clear from the start. > If someone has a problem with what I say, I am sorry. Life is too short > to let a post such as this offend you. > > I spoke with a guy who spoke with a guy who spoke with a guy who spoke to > someone who spoke with Larry... or was it with someone else from APH? I > don't remember... If the APH staff tells us this, then we can believe it > is true. Otherwise, wait! Does anyone remember the old party game > called, Gossip? Unless you absolutely have hard evidence, never rely on > third hand information. You will save yourselves an awful lot of > sleepless nights. > > Even if this information is true, I am thankful for the Bookport I have. > I am sorry for those of you who sold yours, but my parents always told me, > "Don't count your chickens before they hatch." This is still wise advice > no matter how old-fashioned it sounds. > > Larry Keith, or Pamela will have to tell me they have given up on the > development of the BP2 before I believe it. And if they do, I don't > intend to stop living! > > At 04:03 PM 11/8/2007 -0500, you wrote: >>I Just spoke with a guy on the phone today that spoke with a guy at APH in >>customer relations that stated the BP 2 was shelved permanently and >>perhaps >>in a year or more they might come out with a new device. He stated that >>the >>Victor stream pretty much beat APH to the street and they couldn't catch >>up >>with it. >> >>So there you go BP 2 fans. I guess it's time to go get a stream. That's >>my >>plan here. >> >>I'm sad that APH couldn't get the BP 2 out and more sad they tried to keep >>it under wraps even when they knew it would never see the light of day. >> >>Rick > > Sandy Licht > Jeremiah 29:11 - 14. > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper > you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you > will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You > will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be > found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back from captivity. > > > __________ NOD32 2646 (20071108) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >