Hi,
Regretfully, I have to echo Robin’s sentiments including the full disclosure. I
have no plans to try the free version. I did finally give up on the Internet
Suite after losing accessibility with even the JFW touch cursor. Usually the
touch cursor allows me to access places that the PC cursor and even the Jaws
cursor does not. And during several discussions with people at Kaspersky I was
repeatedly told that providing accessibility would equal compromising their
security. So they had no plans to improve accessibility.
Merv
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Hi,
In the interest of full disclosure I haven’t tried this new free iteration but
as of a few months ago April it was the full version of their security suite
because completely unusable with JFW versions 17 and 18 after they did a
product update. No windows or dialogs could be read efficiently thus they
couldn’t be acted upon knowledgably at all. Even pop up notifications which
used to have defined controls one could read and interact with suddenly read
nothing. Again I haven’t tried this new free iteration and in all candor I
probably won’t even bother but that was my experience with Kaspersky products
and JFW as recently as April of this year.
Robin
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Thanks David.
Sent from my Windows 10 Creators machine
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 10:12 PM
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Hi, Deon.
I admit that this news about what they're calling Kaspersky Free is intriguing.
I'll provide a few comments and potential warnings.
First, my experience with it is with NVDA. I have never used Kaspersky
Antivirus with JAWS. Until I'm able to upgrade my JAWS license to a later
version which is compatible with Windows 10 it is likely I may never get a
chance to use the combination of JAWS with Kaspersky and so I don't know what
accessibility challenges you might encounter. Hopefully, someone who has used
that combination can provide you with feedback.
I wrote a detailed review of Kaspersky from the perspective of an NVDA user.
You're more than welcome to read it. Bear in mind that different screen readers
handle things differently, as you well know. Something that might be totally
unusable with JAWS could work well with NVDA and a part of a program could work
badly with NVDA but might work reasonably well with JAWS.
Here's the link to the review.
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/
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On 7/26/2017 6:55 PM, DP Lyons wrote:
David, this is intriguing to say the least. I tried Kaspersky back a decade or
so ago, and had pretty good luck with it, although back then, the full paid
version was a drag on system resources. Sounds like this free version is
hopefully a large step with a small footprint on systems.
Thanks for the info, and I’m gonna give this some definite attention in the
next couple months to see what the user reviews say about it.
dp
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PCWorld
Kaspersky - Google News - Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 2:06 AM
Kaspersky's stellar antivirus finally goes free - PCWorld
Kaspersky has always charged a premium price for its antivirus product, and
rightfully so. The software's topped independent testing results
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/3166557/software-security/the-best-consumer-antivirus-products-of-2016-are-avira-and-norton-test-labs-say.html>
for years, to such an extent that in 2016 AV-Comparatives created a new
"Outstanding Products" category for it and Bitdefender. But late Tuesday, the
company announced
<https://eugene.kaspersky.com/2017/07/25/kl-av-for-free-secure-the-whole-world-will-be/>
Kaspersky Free, letting you deploy that top-notch defense without spending a
single dime.
Kaspersky Free isn't as full-featured as the full-blown version, offering only
antivirus protection for files, emails, and the web, along with table-stakes
features like automatic updates and a quarantine for flagged files. "In short,
the indispensable basics that no one on the planet should do without," CEO
Eugene Kaspersky wrote.
Kaspersky
<https://eugene.kaspersky.com/2017/07/25/kl-av-for-free-secure-the-whole-world-will-be/>
Kaspersky Free.
Think of it like the Windows Defender security tool
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/3188298/windows/meet-windows-defender-security-center-your-pcs-safety-belt-in-the-creators-update.html>
native to Windows 10, but using Kaspersky's highly regarded technology. The
streamlined focus helps keep Kaspersky Free's footprint smaller than that of
the paid versions, Kaspersky says.
In turn, the free version's reach will help improve the protection for
everyone, Eugene Kaspersky says, as more data feeds the company's machine
learning engines. The premium Kaspersky Total Security suite also includes
parental controls, online payment protection, and VPN access, which the free
version lacks.
But even though it's free, Kaspersky's new product won't embrace anti-user
practices, the CEO promises. "Kaspersky Free doesn’t come cut with all the
usual nonsense like advertising-oriented user-habit tracking and
confidentiality infringements – which free AV normally suffers badly
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/avg-security-toolbar-is-the-worst-foistware-ive-ever-seen/>
from in order to make it financially worthwhile to its manufacturers," he
wrote.
Them's fighting words!
Kaspersky Free will start rolling out in the U.S., Canada, and "many of the
Asia Pacific countries" today, July 25, for Kaspersky's 25th anniversary,
before rolling out to the rest of the world over the coming months. At the time
of writing, however, the announcement post's link to the Kaspersky Free page
<https://www.kaspersky.com/free-antivirus> redirected to Kaspersky USA's
homepage.
Kaspersky
<https://eugene.kaspersky.com/2017/07/25/kl-av-for-free-secure-the-whole-world-will-be/>
Kaspersky Free.
The story behind the story: A free, user-friendly version of Kaspersky? Sounds
awesome! It also sounds like great PR at a time when a dark shadow's cast over
the company, however.
Bloomberg
<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-11/kaspersky-lab-has-been-working-with-russian-intelligence>
recently published a report claiming that the security company "has
maintained a much closer working relationship with Russia's main intelligence
agency, the FSB, than it has publicly admitted." Kaspersky has firmly denied
the claim, but that hasn't stopped the Trump administration from moving to
block the company from a list of government-approved vendors.
CEO Eugene Kaspersky addressed those concerns head-on when announcing Kaspersky
Free: "The same protection without compromise: we detect any cyberthreat
regardless of its origin or intention – even if certain folks don’t like it."
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