We, the pizza officianados of New York, do not buy pizzas from chain pizza
shops. Our pizzas come from individually owned shops, even today in 2016,
and here in the suburbs in Nassau County, Long Island, they don't deliver,
well, at least, not in Westbury. There was an Italian restaurant that did
deliver, but that was 20 years ago. Here, a pizza has tomato sauce and
cheese, and you pay extra for added stuff like sausage, peppers, mushrooms,
, onions, anchovies, peperoni, one or all of the above. No pineapple.
Miriam
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:36 PM
To: Miriam Vieni
Cc: blind-democracy
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: pizza
Well, I still remember the rich taste of the deep dish pizzas I ate in New
York back around 1973. Little Caesar used to make a deep pan pizza that was
better than the Domino or Pizza Hut variety, but they didn't deliver. The
pizzas delivered would come to the door just barely warm and when you open
the box the thin layer of toppings are stuck to the lid. Last time I
ordered a pizza delivered was around 1985.
But speaking of tasty pie, there was a family style restaurant in
Poulsbo...until it burned down, that made pies to go. About 15 years
ago...maybe it was 20, they sold for $5.00 for a full size pie. Pick your
poison, they had 'em all. I became wildly enthusiastic over their peanut
Butter chocolate cream pie. But that was over 30 pounds ago. I intend
never to be 267 again. So it's, "Bye Bye Miss American Pie".
Carl Jarvis
On 6/30/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ah, but the words tell you nothing. We have an Italian community inthem.
Westbury and we have pizza places in Westbury and although Papa
Murphy's Pizza may fit the verbal description, I'll bet you that it
can't compare. And interestingly, the pizza in Italy is very different
from the pizza here or, it was, until they began Americanizing it to
fit the taste of the American tourists.
Miriam
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From: Carl Jarvis [mailto:carjar82@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 6:36 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Miriam Vieni
Subject: pizza
Well, I guess Pizza does originate in Italy. But as usual, we
Americans have had to stick our fingers into the toppings.
noun: pizza; plural noun: pizzas
list of 1 items
a dish of Italian origin consisting of a flat, round base of dough
baked with a topping of tomato sauce and cheese, typically with added
meat or vegetables.
list end
Origin
Italian, literally 'pie.'
Carl Jarvis
On 6/30/16, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
pizza.
Well, there was a pizza restaurant around here that not too long ago
was advertising its Mexican Pizza. I think they also made a Hawaiian
On 6/30/2016 4:32 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
On 6/30/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, we each choose which compromises we'll make in our lives.
But now to another point. What kind of pizza could be made by
someone named Papa Murphy? I mean, Papa Murphy might make irish
stew or irish whisky, but pizza? Papa Giovanni makes real pizza. It
reminds me of the Chinese restaurant in Ann Arbor Michigan that
served a tossed green ssalad as a side dish. I mean, people in the
far flung regions of our country have a weird idea about ethnic
food!
Miriam
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From: Carl Jarvis [mailto:carjar82@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:09 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Miriam Vieni
Subject: Re: [blind-democracy] RE: [blind-democracy] Re:
[blind-democracy]
RE: [blind-democracy] RE: [blind-democracy] Interview with
Socialist Action's presidential candidate, Jeff Mackler
Miriam and All,
Talking about compromising as part of our daily life. That works
well so long as both parties can live with the resulting compromise.
Like the other night. We were out late seeing a couple of new clients.
As
we came into Sequim, I had a sudden craving for Pizza.
"Let's pick up a family size Papa Murphy's", I suggested. Cathy
said, "It's late and if I eat Pizza I'll have indigestion all night.
How about BLT's?"
Well, I really wanted Pizza, but at the same time I know how Cathy
suffers if she eats tomato sauces just prior to bed time. And I
know how this suffering effects her normal sweet disposition.
"I can live with that," I said. And I did.
But voting for Hillary Clinton is not a compromise, for me. She is
totally under the spell of the Empire. The Establishment. Bought
and paid for, although she spins some fantasy about being able to
take big piles of money without being beholden to the givers. But
is voting for Hillary a compromise? No. Clinton is Empire Light
compared to Trump's Empire Heavy.
That's like telling Cathy that we can still pick up that Papa
Murphy's Pizza, only we'll have it with Light Sauce.
Forget that, Light indigestion is no better than heavy indigestion
at bed time. Especially when I have to live with the results. I
already compromised by voting for Obama in 2008. Was I able to
live with that
8 year compromise? Well, I'm still here, if that's living with the
Obama compromise. But lots of people are not here. Little
children playing in the fields of Iraq, blown to bloody pieces by
Obama Drones.
Folks separated from their children and shipped back "to where they
came from". More hidden unemployment. More families suffering
from their inability to cover the basic costs of maintaining a family.
No, I don't think that signing up for another 8 years of the same
old same old, is a compromise. It is called, "Hope Lost".
And after the election I will go back to working for changes in the
Law that will bring some relief to the Working Class. Even knowing
that it is not my government. Even knowing that it is not a
compromise if Hillary sits in the Obal Office. But I will join any
fight to force changes, no matter how small, into this foreign
Empire that has destroyed any hope of democracy.
Carl Jarvis
On 6/29/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There are a lot of people who don't want to live in a totally
different system. They want to return to the kind of regulated
capitalism that existed from the end of the depression until the
mid 70's. That is what, I believe Sanders would like, except with
a government single payer system rather than medical insurance
paid for by employers. That is also what a lot of the white
working class would like. I'm not ssaying that you should agree with
thinking.I'm saying that it is necessary to recognize what many people are
Weird or not, Papa Murphy's Pizza stores are springing up all around
Miriam
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[blind-democracy]
RE:
[blind-democracy] Interview with Socialist Action's presidential
candidate, Jeff Mackler
The trouble with working within the system to bring about change
is that when it is the system that you want to change you are
rather defeating yourself. It appears pretty obvious to me that
when someone is committed to working within the system to bring
about change that person is not interested in changing the system.
On 6/29/2016 5:57 PM, Bob Hachey wrote:
Hi Miriam,believe that Sanders was and is working to better the lives of the
While I agree with a good bit of what Mackler has to say here, I
sincerely
bottom 50 percent of income earners. I agree with you that Sanders
believes that working within the system is the best way to win
some real change. But I think we were all pretty sure that sanders
would throw his support to Clinton in the end.
Also, Sanders support for much of our current foreign policy doesin well with the change he says he wants.
not fit
Seems to me, the bottom line is how much change do we want andprepared to risk to implement such change? No doubt that the two
what are we
parties in power now will fight tooth and nail to hold onto that
power in the face of any others no matter what their party. I
believe that if, let's say, Jill Stein or Alyson Kennedy were ever
able to mount a serious threat to the establishment, we'd see some
mighty ugly behavior and possibly violence perpetrated by the
leadership of both parties against that threat. Until and unless
we can reverse the Cittizens VS. United decision, I don't think
we'll see the kind of change that you and I might like.
Bob Hachey
the West. It is not as good as the Deep Dish Pizza I used to get
when I was in New York, but it is a "ready to cook" Pizza, made
while you wait, and made to order. Pop it in the oven for about ten
or fifteen minutes, and yum yum, hot pizza. We usually get a
Cheese, Black Olive, Pepperoni combo with light sauce.
I suspect that it is about as Italian as Chop Sooey is Chinese. But
I don't buy it for its pedigree.
They put just about anything they can fit on top of a pizza shell.
My kids loved Canadian Bacon and Pineapple.
I will eat most anything except fish on my pizza. I like green
pepper, onions and sausage along with my cheese, pepperoni and black
olives.
But now my clock says it's time to stop
compromising(procrastinating), and get back to work.
Carl Jarvis
