[blind-democracy] Re: i think this isart

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:30:58 -0500

He did communicate it. I understood it. It is you who have a problem in
comprehnding that form of communication. You are projecting you problem onto
him.

Miriam 

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Now that does make some sense. But, Joe, when you put it in that poetic form
I really did not understand it to mean what you just now said. It just did
not get through. The question is, did you want to create a piece of art with
words? If that is the case then you succeeded. I could detect the patterns
that make up a poem. It was very recognizable as such. Or did you want to
communicate what you had to say in your prose version? If that was the case
then you failed. You only communicated it when you did translate it into
prose.


On 1/11/2016 2:53 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:


        Ok, I'll try. When I was quite young I fell in love and lust with a
really pretty girl. I mean she was really pretty and she really liked me
too. But, I was pretty insecure. Then we did the belly bump.
         
        And all mixed up with all of that goofy and sensuous stuff the times
were really pretty troubled to. You know Vietnam, assisinations and that
sort of stuff.
         
        I got caught up in that shit and really did become a real radical.
         
        And with regret Rene and I drifted aapart.
         
        But, in spite of that she still lingers in my memories.
         
        Oh, yes, and might I add that youth is wasted on the young.
         
        Oh, did I mention the sex was really good, though surely it is only
some sort of bio-chemical reaction.
         
        How, did I do?
         
        P.. She really did look like Barbie. And some shit one just can't
make up.
         
         

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Alice Dampman Humel <mailto:alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
                To: <mailto:blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 2:45 PM
                Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: i think this isart

                Joe,  
                Could you please distill all this imagery, all these vivid
pictures, the rhythms and ebb and flow of your so-called flowery words and
all this so-called "emotional claptrap" into a couple of really boring
declarative sentences? 
                Could you please suck all the life out of your story?  
                Could you please remove all aesthetic pleasure, all
imagination, all fantasy, all creativity from your post? 
                Could you please make what you are saying direct, fact-based
and empty? 
                Could you please delete all those descriptive adjectives,
take all the color out and leave the drab scaffolding of the facts? 
                Thank you. 
                Alice  

                On Jan 11, 2016, at 2:22 PM, joe harcz Comcast <
<mailto:joeharcz@xxxxxxxxxxx> joeharcz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


                        Renee- Guerrilla lovers in sterling gray
                        Joe Harcz
                        October 4, 1999 variation
                        Buicks rumble down
                        the line in the distance
                        adding to the city din.
                        Sounds moving in a trance
                        Full of war across the pacific
                        Fueling our indignant insolence.
                        Though we're not apathetic
                        to the haunting echoes,
                        so gruesome and pathetic
                        of the blood flowing out
                        of televisions .
                        Sowing seeds of lament and doubt
                        white noise blaring from
                        apartment windows .
                        News of kingdom come
                        Melting in the summer heat.
                        With Children lost in the dark
                        mixing with the rhythm and beat
                        of a bustling city park.
                        We have to take a break
                        From wars raging without
                        And from battles looming within.
                        You lie in my arms on the hill
                        under the shimmering summer sky.
                        Time stood still and
                        cacophony ceased.
                        I forgot for a moment to ask why.
                        But the world silenced as
                        you were spacing on the skies.
                        And we were released
                        as I was swimming in your eyes.
                        I was your first love.
                        And looking through the distance
                        you still remember that fondly.
                        At first glance
                        you think i've forgotten you.
                        Addressing the image boldly
                        fighting both smiles and tears
                        clawing out from under
                        the avalanche of years
                        focusing sharply
                        on a town that ran on wheels
                           kielbasa
                           shop rats
                            hot brats
                          and beer.
                        And in a time that lingers
                          in nam
                          in kent
                           in flint
                           in fear.
                        We were fresh you and i.
                        You worshipped me and that was your mistake.
                        We were slices of american pie.
                        What was  my big mistake?
                        I never told you I loved you   lady.
                        …That you were  my earthquake
                        But you told me
                        you worshipped me
                        perhaps a little too desperately.
                        Truth be told my beauty
                        -and revealing insecurity
                        I felt a bit unworthy.
                        Though i was a bomb throwing hippie
                        taking on the beast.
                        I was a solitary guerilla lover
                        And phantom at the feast.
                        Clad in blue bell-bottoms
                        with an amerikan flag sewed onits ass
                         a profane  uniform
                        in an insane clash
                        looking for windmills and dragons
                        -fighting a battle within a storm-
                        to rumble
                          and tumble
                           and fumble with.
                        I stumbled across you on the path
                        In a world at war with me.
                        You loved watching me throw rocks at goliath
                        -battling the enemy.
                        I always brought his head to you
                        -A grotesque trophy-
                        A vicarious gift for you
                        In the sparkling kaleidoscope,
                        Flashing psychedelic
                        World of fantasy and hope…
                        Versus the Planet of misery, mystery and panic.
                        It was A World turned on its head
                        By me.
                        I tried to raise the dead
                        In you and me.
                        Arise lazarus!
                        I was restless reckless and dangerous.
                        You wanted me that way-
                        -to flee the loneliness
                        -to escape from the city
                        -to fill the emptiness
                        -to fight inevitability…
                        -to spring from the trap
                        the toys
                        the crap
                        the haze
                         the noise
                        the daze.
                        Without a doubt
                        we took all that we could take.
                        I know what you thought.
                        I read minds in the wake.
                        Now you think i've forgotten you?
                        it just isn't true.
                        Damn darling you were so bodaciously beautiful.
                        Barbie doll body
                        so lean and mean and sensual.
                        Blushing femininity
                        clashing with burgeoning feminism. So unusual.
                        Blistering blush of lust firing
                        through each human mechanism. So sensational.
                        Rapacious raw hormonal rushes desiring
                        passion that was something truly cosmic
                        riveting you, me into us
                        -a blurring whirring paradox fantastic.
                        So bright
                        and   yet so naïve.
                        So privileged.
                         so impoverished .
                        Sso cynical yet
                         desperately wanting to believe.
                        So altruistic.
                         So selfish.
                        There are so many things that i remember
                        like blind lust in the woods.
                        A rock concert screaming with thousands.
                        Of Tie-dyed freaks in frozen childhood.
                        We battling the bands
                        oblivious to the fact that we were
                        wrapped so tightly into each other
                        feet from a cheering throng
                        it didn't seem to matter.
                        We just wanted to belong.
                        Our intimacy deafened us .
                        We heard nothing but each other
                        With our desires crashing through us
                        and clapping our applause for one an other.
                        We were guerilla lovers
                        -Che Guerva and Guinavere-
                        Beyond the chill that hovers
                        above those days of flesh and fear.
                        Love tempting the fates
                        In the land of the bountiful
                        storming the gates
                        open youthful
                        exhibitionist passion
                        it was both raging and beautiful
                        soulful innocent and brazen
                        damn it was an in your face
                        kind of love
                        a love that never fades
                        a love that never quits
                        a love that mans the barricades
                        i loved it
                        and i loved you
                        but mostly i remember
                        those soft gray eyes of yours
                        smoldering in the embers
                        of charred memories
                        living on the edge
                        teetering precariously
                        tilting rocking lilting
                        and looming dangerously
                        between black and white
                        in the shades of gray
                        between the dark and light
                        of those dazzling but dismal days
                        well you wore them well
                        they trapped me in your cult
                        and they cast their spell
                        but it is so damned difficult
                        to describe how beautiful your eyes were
                        to find words to paint the thought
                        the rare image hard to measure
                        i mean gray doesn't do them justice
                        they were soft lipid wistful inviting eyes
                        not the steely gray of the buicks
                        rolling down the line of nearby fisher body
                        metal monsters of the midway
                        off to peddlers a cure for every malady
                        not the gloomy gray of foreboding michigan june
clouds
                        filled with treacherous thunderstorms
                        and tornadoes looming fear and doubt
                        in skies whistling winds that mourn throughout
                        not the murky gray existence
                        the muddled alienation
                        of shop rats and white sock indifference
                        to our  rising indignation
                        They were sparkling gray eyes
                        with sterling sapphire flecks
                        mirrors of great lakes and midwestern skies
                        full of the sizzling innocence and
                        the humble arrogance of youth
                        they  expressed the seeming contradictions
                        the mystery of sinner and saint
                          of you   and me the times and revolutions
                        far better than these pathetic words can paint
                        But when we both said no to our daddies
                        And when martin and bobby died in our arms
                        And bullets raced by us in rice paddies
                        And streets erupted in flames
                        And when gladiators were lost in war  games
                        I was invulnerable from harm
                        Protected from all bullet proof
                        Standing defiant proud aloof.
                        Immortal invincible untroubled
                        Yet possessed, taken and beguiled
                        Wrapped in the warmth of your summer skies
                        A -Madonna held battered child-
                        In your loving hypnotic eyes
                        Looking back deeply into those eyes
                        I see bare heaving breasts
                        Greeting the sunrise
                        Daring a sleepy factory town to come from rest
                        To come alive to arise
                        From sleeping stupor
                        Wake up flint!
                        Move fast before it's over
                        Wake up amerika!
                        Don't let the moment pass
                        Take each breath for the last
                        And I see quivering hips
                        And long young silky legs
                        Perfectly poignant unpainted lips
                        Hard hats and hippies
                        Flowing flaxen hair
                        Rock bands and groupies
                        Snowflakes in the air
                        Peace signs and swastikas
                        Us walking on the moon
                        With No stop signs or replicas
                        In a magic night in june
                          Spying the blue emerald rise of earth
                        With hopeful unanswered questions
                        A child coming to birth
                        In the season
                        Of flaming Buddhist monks
                        Bouncing braless mamas
                        Attacking Fighter planes and tanks
                        Amid Fallen corpses in black pajamas
                        Taunting Walking dead men leaving factories
                        Watching Black lights and psychedelic tracers
                        Illuminate  Fragile tangled fantasies
                        And Grey eyes with hints of azure
                        Defining A stoic fallen virgin amidst
                        The mean the unclean the pure
                        Bold attempts to resist
                        Men standing tall to secure
                        Amid the untold panic attacks
                        Succor from your soft allure
                        And billowing smokestacks
                         Producing Perfectly
                        brilliant tangerine sunrises
                        a beautiful malignancy
                            Bursting through industrial haze 
                        Celebrating enigmaticly
                        Your loving gaze
                        I smell
                        The scent of ivory soap
                           And perfume of  patchouli
                        Feint hints of hazy dope
                        In the sultry air of july
                        Wafting Tear gas
                        Stale beer and popcorn at county fairs
                        The bizarre clash
                        Of Burning napalm, skin  and hemp
                        Mixed with Apple blossoms in your hair
                        Mingling with Odor of the urban U.N.-kempt
                        Arousing Smell of arrogance
                        And the hypocrisy of lent
                        as strong as sacramental incense
                        and Honest AutoWorkers sweat
                        In the  Oils of street artist galleries
                        And The hard to forget
                        Frying onions At kewpies
                        Acrid steel slag and bewitching hex
                        Of A Scent  that blends with fantasies
                        In  The intoxicating aroma of raw young sex
                        mingling with Smoldering leaves of autumn
                        And Sweet fresh flesh
                        lying  On dew drenched grass
                        in freedom
                        I can't believe
                        beneath me
                        I hear
                        Trains, cars and belching  Factories
                        Swirling echoing loops
                        With Electric guitars 
                        Blaring through the coups
                        And  dropping heavy metal from the stars
                        To  marching troops
                        Echoing You're beating heart
                        Pacing   Barking groups
                        Crying babies
                        Laughing children
                        Howling crazies
                        Singing Songs of freedom
                        To Angry mobs
                        Shouting    Righteous speeches  
                        bellowing  from bullhorns
                        a sound that reaches
                        and mourns
                        in Quiet sobs
                        with soft whispers
                        of want righteousness and alienation
                        from the vespers
                        chant of stagnation
                        and  sensuously cooing moans
                        sighing  low mourns
                        for a bleeding nation
                        in your  Subtle squeals
                        and sexual groans
                        soothing Cries of wounded souls
                        in battle hospitals
                        A loud prayer that heals
                        In Pulsing temples
                        And soldier's tombs
                        A sound that kneels
                        To Exploding bombs
                        Pouring your Hot breath into my ear
                        Echoes from the womb
                        Melding victory with fear
                        Merging discontent
                          With contentment
                        in the landscape
                        -betwixt beauty and bedevilment-
                        in  my mind
                        Spying  opaque silver gray eyes
                        A bubbling spa
                        Under frozen blue winter skies
                        In your  surreal scandinavian snowscape
                        Ice etched imagery
                        Serenely contrasting
                        with pale lonesome beauty
                        and The boiling distractions
                        of angst revolt and duty bold
                        misspent actions
                        Of youth rushing wildly to grow old
                        now even through the milky distance
                        of the years
                        painted memory dances
                        in a mind so clear
                        and I see those eyes so luminescent
                        In The wispy translucent
                        Clouds of an early autumn
                        Twilight in michigan
                        Revealing sterling gray
                        Flecks of sparkling blue sky
                        And the last call-
                        The fading sigh
                        Whispered before the fall
                        Of the proud retiring orange sun
                        Glimmering so majestically
                        torching  the fading horizon
                        through silver clouds fighting defiantly
                        before Sad descent
                        into defused twinkling sparkles magically
                        Engulfed by the advent
                        Of darkness and night
                        An image stolen by moon and stars to lament
                        But still held hard  and tight
                        Yet through the gloom of distance
                        the passage of time and the pall
                        I wear for all the lost innocence
                        And Though I see the sunnset and fall
                        Of youth, and  a country
                        Beset with regret
                        I will always realize
                        Your eyes illuminate all. Of it
                         And You are still mine
                        you are Unmarred by fading memory
                        for all time
                        And you think I've forgotten you??
                        Pjh, sig, 10-04-99-030-





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