I am very distressed just about all of the time when I read about what is
happening. I am very sympathetic toward all of the people who are being hurt
and I am terrified about the fate of this planet. The way in which governments
and big corporations act has always been concerning, but I have never been has
angry at the corruption and frightened about what will happen to all of us as I
am now.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
(Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 11:33 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Those unwanted emails
Whatever your reason for being interested in it I don't see how you can follow
politics if you don't enjoy observing conflict.
___
Emmett F. Fields “ Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do
not exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is
an attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively,
fearlessly, always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.
” ― Emmett F. Fields
On 2/26/2021 10:11 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
I wouldn't enjoy humiliating someone, even if that person deserved it. It's
not what gives me pleasure. I also don't enjoy watching other people fight,
not physically, and not verbally. Even if someone is showing that he is more
logical than the other person, I don't enjoy it because there's conflict and
hostility involved and I don't enjoy experiencing or observing conflict and
hostility. What I wish for everyone, is peace and harmony. That's what fuels
my interest in politics and international relations. I want people to take
care of each other, and respect each other.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
(Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 9:53 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Those unwanted emails
Twitter doesn't give enough space to make an argument. I don't think it would
be of much use in that regard other than maybe trading short insults. But, as
a matter of fact, I did enjoy trouncing Mustafa. I have encountered enough
bullies in my life that it literally gives me joy to give as much as they
give. I generally do not like to be insulted, but when I got a torrent of
insults after backing Mustafa into a logical corner after he had so
forthrightly claimed that his position was the logical one I really did enjoy
the insults. Doing the same thing privately won't do. The bully tries to
humiliate publicly and doesn't care if no one observes his defeat. But
publicly showing him up for what he is can be another matter. And I knew from
the start that I was going to win this argument. It is an argument that I
never lose. And I do not mean that I never lose it in my own mind. I won
right out there where you and everyone else could see me winning. I will take
on Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons at my door on occasion and it is a bit fun
to see them try to wrestle with questions that they never thought of getting,
but it is not really so much fun in the long run. They are not actually
trying to bully. That is more like those street preachers do. And, besides,
having done door to door work myself I am a little bit sympathetic towards
them. But when I can get a self righteous, condescending, judgemental bully
before an audience and take him down decisively then that is a lot of fun.
You ought to try it yourself. You don't know what you are missing.
___
Emmett F. Fields “ Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not
exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an
attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly,
always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.
” ― Emmett F. Fields
On 2/26/2021 9:12 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Roger,
I never enjoyed those arguments. I didn't enjoy it when you argued back and
I doubt that anyone else except you enjoyed it. That was what I kept saying.
It is you who want to beat him in an argument. No one else cares. People may
not like his posts, but no one likes watching people fight on an email list.
Well, maybe some people do, the same kind of people who enjoy the fights
that go on, on Twitter. But what people are doing on Twitter, is showing
off, trying to get the better of each other, trying to show who's smarter. I
think they're all acting like narsissistic children.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
(Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 7:53 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Those unwanted emails
Well, Miriam, I don't respond to him anymore. I just send his messages to
the spam folder and delete them from there. But, yes, it is tempting to
respond. If he is looking for an argument I think I have proven that I can
give it to him and trounce him in the process. That can be fun.
And, yes, it is a lot of fun to humiliate a bully. It is fun to give a bully
back what he dishes out and watch how he can't take what he dishes out. I am
not doing it now because I am getting his messages from a personal mailing
list. When I respond I am sending messages to everyone on that list who are
already demanding that they be taken off of it anyway. If I did that I would
be doing the same thing to them that he is doing. I suppose I could check
the address fields and be sure that the message was going to him and him
alone, but that kind of takes the fun out of it.
___
Emmett F. Fields “ Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not
exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an
attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly,
always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.
” ― Emmett F. Fields
On 2/26/2021 1:54 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
I can't imagine why you would be tempted to respond. He isn't writing those
emails because he wants real interchange of opinions. He writes them to
tempt people into arguments or sometimes, just to taunt.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 12:00 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Those unwanted emails
Maybe I have an answer to those unwanted email messages. Especially the
latest ones from "James Madison". Of course James Madison turns out to be
our old pest, Mostaafa. After responding to one of James(Mostafa)posts I
received a message from Google telling me that my email address had been
compromised. Then my email account was canceled. With the assistance of
my wife, we reestablished my google account, but it was a bit upsetting,
since I keep many files in Google. But the sneaky way Mostafa gets around
posting his unsolicited posts made me suspiscious that my reply and the
Google post that discontinued my email account were somehow related. Once
again I will resolve that, no matter how tempting, I will refrain from
responding to Mostafa, no matter what name he uses.
Carl Jarvis
