Very funny. So in how many states is he on the ballot?
Miriam
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Joe Biden should drop out before he takes so many votes away from Jeff Mackler
that he hands the election to Trump.
___
Robert G. Ingersoll
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inquires. To doubt is heresy, to inquire is to admit that you do not know—the
Church does neither.”
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On 9/19/2020 10:14 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
I know that there is a tendency for one of the two dominant parties to blame
one of the third parties when their candidates don't win. But then when you
listen to various analyses of the votes, it becomes apparent that these
allegations aren't necessarily true. The fact is that the two parties want to
keep their monopoly, and it is truly a monopoly, on the electorate. They want
to control everything. That is why the Wisconsin Democratic Party has just
made tremendous efforts, apparently successful, to keep the Green Party off
the ballot in their state. Even John Nichols, whose opinion I usually
respect, is pleased about this. The Democratic Party is terrified that if the
Green Party were on the ballot, it would siphon votes from Joe Biden. I
understand their concern. However, to try to win an election by surpressing
competative political parties is hardly Democratic. Our government and press
is always accusing other countries of doing this. I have read, over and over
again, that if we had ranked voting, it would avoid the problem of third
parties siphoning off votes. I should have posted the article about it that I
saw last night.
Miriam
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3rd party candidates can have an impact. Many feel that Bill Clinton only
won in 1992 because of the 18% of the vote that went to Ross perot that
probably otherwise would have gone to George Bush.
Andy
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Of course the other four are there so that we can pretend that we have a
choice of people for whom to vote and so that we can feel good when we pull
the lever, even if it's for someone who has no chance in hell of winning or
having any influence over government policy. We can say we voted our
conscience. We can pretend, if we campaign for an alternative party
candidate, that we are educating the voters and contributing to change that
is coming. It's truly amazing, how people can indulge in magical thinking.
Right now, our planet is dying, people are dying from an uncontrolled
pandemic. Our government is being run by Fascists. Our economic system is
supporting the wealthy while little by little, the rest of us are losing our
economic security. Police are murdeering black people all over the country.
So when a tiny percentage of the population comes out in the streets to
express their rage, all of our optimistic leftists talk about how it is a
good sign that we are seeing some of the largest street demonstrations in
decades.
Miriam
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https://www.lascrucesbulletin.com/stories/six-presidential-candidates-
are-on-the-new-mexico-ballot,4821 Six presidential candidates are on
the New Mexico ballot
Posted Thursday, September 17, 2020 1:15 am By Mike Cook There are six
candidates for president of the United States on the Nov.
3 ballot in New Mexico, including one who is a native New Mexican and another
who was born in El Paso.
The candidates are
Republican incumbent Donald John Trump, 74, a native of New York, who had
never held public office before being elected the 45th president of the
United States in 2016. Former Indiana Gov. Michael Richard Pence, 61, is
seeking his second term as vice president. Pence, a native of Columbus,
Indiana, served in the U.S. House of Representatives, first representing
Indiana’s second district and then its sixth district, 2001-13. He was
governor 2013-17.
Democrat Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., 77, was the 47th vice president
(2009-17) and was a U.S. senator from Delaware, 1973-2009. Biden was born in
Scranton, Pennsylvania. Biden’s running mate is California U.S.
Sen. Kamala Devi Harris, who turns 56 in October. A native of Oakland,
California, Harris was San Francisco district attorney, 2004-11, and
California attorney general, 2011-17. She was elected to the U.S. Senate in
2016.
Green Party candidate Howard Gresham “Howie” Hawkins, 67, was born in San
Francisco. He is co-founder of the Green Party and has run for governor and
U.S. senator in New York and for mayor of Syracuse. His running mate is
Angela Nicole Walker, 46, of Wisconsin. She was the Socialist Party candidate
for vice president in 2016 and ran for sheriff of Milwaukee County,
Wisconsin, as an independent in 2014.
Libertarian Party candidate Joanne Marie “Jo” Jorgensen, 63, was born in
Libertyville, Illinois. She ran for vice president on the Libertarian ticket
in 1996 and was a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives in South
Carolina in 1992. Her 2020 running mate is Jeremy “Spike”
Cohen, 38, an entrepreneur and podcaster, who is a native of Baltimore,
Maryland.
Constitution Party Sheila “Samm” Tittle, 57, is a native of El Paso who now
lives in Virginia. The national Constitution Party nominated Don Blankenship
of West Virginia for president, but the New Mexico party chose Tittle.
Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) candidate Gloria La Riva, 66, was
born in Albuquerque. 2020 marks La Riva’s 10th consecutive campaign for
president or vice president. She has also run for governor of California and
mayor of San Francisco. PSL candidate for vice president Sunil Freeman is a
poet and essayist who grew up in Maryland.
There have been a wide range of third-party candidates in American history,
including those of the anti-Masonic, Nullifier, Liberty, Free Soil, American
(also known as the No Nothing Party), Southern Democratic, Constitutional
Union, Greenback, Prohibition, Union Labor, Populist, Socialist, Progressive
(three different parties), Union, States’ Rights, American Independent,
Independent, Libertarian, Reform and Green parties.
America’s first president, George Washington, was elected twice without a
political party. 1796-1848, the U.S. elected one Federalist candidate, four
Democratic-Republican candidates and two Whig candidates as president.
Since the election of 1852, only a Democrat or a Republican has been elected
president. John Quincy Adams was elected in 1824 (the only U.S.
presidential election decided in the U.S. House of Representatives) as a
Democratic-Republican but ran unsuccessfully for re-election in 1828 as a
National Republican.
Henry Clay ran unsuccessfully as a National Republican candidate for
president in 1832.
Since 1832, the third-party candidate receiving the highest percentage of the
popular vote was Theodore Roosevelt, who earned 27.4 percent in 1912.
Roosevelt had served as president 1901-09, but chose not to run for
re-election in 1908, instead backing U.S. Sec. of War William Howard Taft,
who easily won that year’s general election.
Roosevelt was unhappy with Taft’s presidency and ran against him in
the
1912 Republican Primary. Taft won the Primary but finished third in the
General behind Democrat Woodrow Wilson and Roosevelt, running as a
Progressive. It’s the only time in American history that an incumbent
president has finished third in a general election, and the only time a
third-party candidate has finished ahead of a Republican or a Democratic
candidate in the popular vote.
Former President Millard Fillmore, running as the American Party
candidate, got 21.4 percent of the popular vote in 1856. Businessman
Ross Perot (Reform
Party) got 18.9 percent in 1992; Vice President John C. Breckenridge
got
18.2 percent in 1860, running as a Southern Democrat; U.S. Sen. Robert
LaFollette (Progressive) got 16.6 percent in 1924; Alabama Gov. George
Wallace (American Independent) got 13.5 percent in 1968; former U.S. Sen.
John Bell (Constitutional Union) got
12.6 percent in 1860; former President Martin Van Buren (Free Soil)
got
10.1 percent in 1848.
Breckenridge earned the highest percentage of electoral votes of any
third-party candidate: 72 in 1860. The Democrat, Stephan A. Douglas,
got more popular votes than Breckenridge, but only 12 electoral votes.
The winner, Abraham Lincoln, who was the nation’s first Republican
president, got 180 electoral votes and almost 40 percent of the
popular vote. Bell won
39 electoral votes.
Theodore Roosevelt earned the most electoral votes, 88, of any third-party
candidate, in 1912. Incumbent Taft received only eight electoral votes. The
winner, Wilson, received 435.
The last third-party candidate to earn electoral votes was Wallace, who
garnered 46 in 1968. Then South Carolina Gov. J. Strom Thurmond (States’
Rights/Dixiecrats), earned 39 electoral votes in 1948, and LaFollette
received 13 (winning his home state of Wisconsin) in 1924.
In the 2016 presidential election, Libertarian candidate and former
New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson earned almost 4.5 million votes, equal to
3.28 percent of the total. Green Party candidate Jill Stein received
almost
1.46 million votes, or 1.07 percent. Constitution Party candidate Darrell
Castle received 203,000 votes, or 0.15 percent.
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