If you switch the position of the 8 and the 9 you change 1896 into 1986.
That is a difference of ninety years, not nine years.
On 8/21/2018 1:23 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
1889 or 1898, seems to me that 9 years one way or the other isn't
going to matter. If we go with the 1898 date, all of my grandparents
had been born.
In fact, as I recall listening to them, none of my grandparents
thought about how wasteful the Industrial Revolution had made us. To
their way of thinking there was no end to Earth's bountiful resources.
During more than half of my life I subconsciously believed the same
way. It was not until the mid 80's that I began hearing about the
Greenhouse Effect.
My first conference on Climate Warming was in 1985. I recall the
speaker telling us, "If you like the climate in San Diego, you're
going to love Seattle in 2025". We all chuckled. The early focus was
on the warming trend. As scary as that was, no one was talking much
about the increased weather turbulence. The past week has been very
hard on folks with respiratory issues here in Washington State.
Several forest fires are burning over the border in Canada, and the
smoke is like a heavy fog. On a good day they call it a Haze. But on
several days they declared that our air quality was worse than that of
any of the leading polluted cities around the world.
Even as I write at 10:25 PM., I can smell smoke inside my house.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/20/18, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
That had to be a misprint. I think the 8 and the 9 got transposed.
On 8/20/2018 10:25 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Yes. I noticed the date. This is the problem with addicts. They are
the last to realize that they are addicted.
The destruction of Planet Earth's Eco System is directly connected to
the Greed of the Earth's Ruling Class. Greed is as addictive as any
drug...even a hundredfold.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/20/18, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Did you notice that he said that human caused climate change was first
noted
in 1896?
Miriam
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Saying Goodbye to Planet Earth
As with most Prophets, Chris Hedges is not a cheery fellow. But his
articles, books and reports over the past years ring true. If we are to
preserve Life, including us, on Planet Earth, we need to listen and we
need
to Act!
Carl Jarvis
On 8/20/18, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Saying Goodbye to Planet Earth
Chris Hedges
Mr. Fish / Truthdig
The spectacular rise of human civilization-its agrarian societies,
cities, states, empires and industrial and technological advances
ranging from irrigation and the use of metals to nuclear fusion-took
place during the last 10,000 years, after the last ice age. Much of
North America was buried, before the ice retreated, under sheets eight
times the height of the Empire State Building. This tiny span of time
on a planet that is 4.5 billion years old is known as the Holocene
Age. It now appears to be coming to an end with the refusal of our
species to significantly curb the carbon emissions and pollutants that
might cause human extinction. The human-induced change to the
ecosystem, at least for many thousands of years, will probably make
the biosphere inhospitable to most forms of life.
The planet is transitioning under our onslaught to a new era called
the Anthropocene. This era is the product of violent conquest,
warfare, slavery, genocide and the Industrial Revolution, which began
about 200 years ago, and saw humans start to burn a hundred million
years of sunlight stored in the form of coal and petroleum. The
numbers of humans climbed to over 7 billion.
Air, water, ice and rock, which are interdependent, changed.
Temperatures climbed. The Anthropocene, for humans and most other
species, will most likely conclude with extinction or a massive
die-off, as well as climate conditions that will preclude most known
life forms. We engineered our march toward collective suicide although
global warming was first identified in
1896 by the Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius.
The failure to act to ameliorate global warming exposes the myth of
human progress and the illusion that we are rational creatures. We
ignore the wisdom of the past and the stark scientific facts before
us. We are entranced by electronic hallucinations and burlesque acts,
including those emanating from the centers of power, and this ensures
our doom. Speak this unpleasant truth and you are condemned by much of
society. The mania for hope and magical thinking is as seductive in
the Industrial Age as it was in pre-modern societies.
Ate and Nemesis were minor deities who were evoked in ancient Greek
drama.
Those infected with hubris, the Greeks warned, lost touch with the
sacred, believed they could defy fate, or fortuna, and abandoned
humility and virtue. They thought of themselves as gods. Their hubris
blinded them to human limits and led them to carry out acts of
suicidal folly, embodied in the god Ate. This provoked the wrath of
the gods. Divine retribution, in the form of Nemesis, led to tragedy
and death and then restored balance and order, once those poisoned
with hubris were eradicated. "Too late, too late you see the path of
wisdom," the Chorus in the play "Antigone" tells Creon, ruler of
Thebes, whose family has died because of his hubris.
"We're probably not the first time there's been a civilization in the
universe," Adam Frank, a professor of astrophysics at the University
of Rochester and the author of "Light of the Stars: Alien Worlds and
the Fate of the Earth," told me when we met in New York.
"The idea that we're destroying the planet gives us way too much
credit,"
he
went on. "Certainly, we're pushing the earth into a new era. If we
look at the history of the biosphere, the history of life on earth, in
the long run, the earth is just going to pick that up and do what is
interesting for it.
It will run new evolutionary experiments. We, on the other hand, may
not be a part of that experiment."
Civilizations probably have risen elsewhere in the universe, developed
complex societies and then died because of their own technological
advances.
Every star in the night sky is believed to be circled by planets, some
10 billion trillion of which astronomers such as Frank Drake estimate
are hospitable to life.
"If you develop an industrial civilization like ours, the route is
going to be the same," Adam Frank said. "You're going to have a hard
time not triggering climate change."
Astronomers call the inevitable death of advanced civilizations across
the universe "the great filter." Robin Hanson in the essay, "The Great
Filter-Are We Almost Past It?" argues that advanced civilizations hit
a wall or a barrier that makes continued existence impossible. The
more that human societies evolve, according to Hanson, the more they
become "energy intensive" and ensure their own obliteration. This is
why, many astronomers theorize, we have not encountered other advanced
civilizations in the universe. They destroyed themselves.
"For a civilization to destroy itself through nuclear war, it has to
have certain emotional characteristics," Frank said. "You can imagine
certain civilizations saying, 'I'm not building those [nuclear
weapons]. Those are crazy.' But climate change, you can't get away
from. If you build a civilization, you're using huge amounts of
energy. The energy feeds back on the planet, and you're going to push
yourself into a kind of Anthropocene.
It's probably universal."
Frank said that our inability to project ourselves into a future
beyond our own life spans makes it hard for us to grasp the reality
and consequences of severe climate change. Scenarios for dramatic
climate change often center around the year 2100, when most adults
living now will be dead. Although this projection may turn out to be
overly optimistic given the accelerating rate of climate change, it
allows societies to ignore-because it is outside the life span of most
living adults-the slow-motion tsunami that is occurring.
"We think we're not a part of the biosphere-that we're above it-that
we're special," Frank said. "We're not special."
"We're the experiment that the biosphere is running now," he said. "A
hundred million years ago, it was grassland. Grasslands were a new
evolutionary innovation. They changed the planet, changed how the
planet worked. Then the planet went on and did things with it.
Industrial civilization is the latest experiment. We will keep being a
part of that experiment or, with the way that we're pushing the
biosphere, it will just move on without us."
"We have been sending probes to every other planet in the solar system
for the last 60 years," he said. "We have rovers running around on
Mars. We've learned generically how planets work. From Venus, we've
learned about the runaway greenhouse effect. On Venus the temperature
is 800 degrees. You can melt lead [there]. Mars is a totally dry,
barren world now. But it used to have an ocean. It used to be a blue
world. We have models that can predict the climate. I can predict the
weather on Mars tomorrow via these climate models. People who think
the only way we can understand climate is by studying the earth now,
that's completely untrue. These other worlds-Mars, Venus, Titan. Titan
is a moon of Saturn that has an amazingly rich atmosphere. They all
teach us how to think like a planet. They have taught us generically
how
planets behave."
Frank points out that much of the configurations of the ecosystem on
which we depend have not always been part of the planet's biosphere.
This includes the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water and warm air
up from Florida to Boston and out across the Atlantic.
"Hundreds of millions of people in some of Earth's most
technologically advanced cities rely on the mild climate delivered by
the
Gulf Stream,"
Frank writes in "Light of the Stars." "But the Gulf Stream is nothing
more than a particular circulation pattern formed during a particular
climate state the Earth settled into after the last ice age ended. It
is not a permanent fixture of the planet."
"Everything we think about the earth just happens to be this one
moment we found it in," he told me. "We're pushing it [the planet] and
we're pushing it hard. We don't have much time to make these
transitions. What people have to understand is that climate change is
our cosmic adolescence. We should have expected this. The question is
not 'did we change the climate?' It's 'of course we changed the
climate. What else did you expect to have happened?' We're like a
teenager who has been given this power over ourselves. Just like how
you give a teenager the keys to the car, there's this moment where
you're like, 'Oh my God I hope you make it.' And that's what we are."
"Climate change is not a problem we have to make go away, in a sense
that you don't make adolescence go away," Frank said. "It is a
dangerous transition that you have to navigate. . The question is are
we smart enough to deal with the effects of our own power? Climate
change is not a pollution problem. It's not like any environmental
problem we've faced before. In some sense, it's not an environmental
problem but a planetary transition. We've already pushed the earth
into it. We're going to have to evolve a new way of being a
civilization, fundamentally."
"We will either evolve those group behaviors quickly or the earth will
take what we've given it, in terms of new climate states, and move on
and create new species," he said.
Frank said the mathematical models for the future of the planet have
three trajectories. One is a massive die-off of perhaps 70 percent of
the human population and then an uneasy stabilization. The second is
complete collapse and extinction. The third is a dramatic
reconfiguration of human society to protect the biosphere and make it
more diverse and productive not for human beings but for the health of
the planet. This would include halting our consumption of fossil
fuels, converting to a plant-based diet and dismantling the animal
agriculture industry as well as greening deserts and restoring
rainforests.
There is, Frank warned, a tipping point when the biosphere becomes so
degraded no human activity will halt runaway climate change. He cites
Venus again.
"The water on Venus got lost slowly," he said. "The CO2 built up.
There was no way to take it out of the atmosphere. It gets hotter. The
fact that it gets hotter makes it even hotter. Which makes it even
hotter. That's what would happen in the collapse model. Planets have
minds of their own. They are super-complex systems. Once you get the
ball
rolling down the hill. .
This is the greatest fear. This is why we don't want to go past 2
degrees [Celsius] of climate change. We're scared that once you get
past 2 degrees, the planet's own internal mechanisms kick in. The
population comes down like a stone. A complete collapse. You lose the
civilization entirely."
