Yes, but Wall Street was in his cabinet, Timothy Gythner, Lawrence Summers,
and a justice department which did not pursue any of the heads of banks or
big financial institutions. And his biggest funder was the head of a huge
hotel chain and is now in his cabinet. Her name escapes me. If he'd been in
politics longer, he'd have had as many connections as the Clintons do.
Miriam
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To be fair to Obama he was much less in the hip pocket of Wall Street than
Hilliary or her husband. I'm not letting Obama off the hook here either. I'm
just talking about matters of degree.
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To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:18 PM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Progressive 3.0: Beware the Latest Version of
Hillary Clinton
Hiding behind her Womanhood will not separate Hillary Clinton from thestraight.
Establishment that pays her freight. Barak Obama, despite the
Republican nay Sayers, was a puppet of the establishment despite being
Black. The fact that Hillary Clinton is unable to understand what it
is to be a Corporate Lackey, should be a red flag.
But personally, I think Hillary Clinton knows who she is. She just
thinks the rest of America is confused enough not to figure her out.
Carl Jarvis
On 2/5/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Progressive 3.0: Beware the Latest Version of Hillary Clinton
Published on Friday, February 05, 2016 by Common Dreams Progressive
3.0: Beware the Latest Version of Hillary Clinton Some thoughts on
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Former secreatary of state Hillary Clinton takes the stage on
Thursday night for a debate with Sen. Bernie Sanders hosted by MSNBC.
(Photo: Getty) Listening to Hillary last night trying to pass herself
off as a progressive is like watching a chameleon change colors to
match its surroundings.
Not
quite the same, however. The chameleon's move is defensive.
Hillary's is strictly offensive.
The poll-tested, focus-grouped phrases like "a progressive who gets
things done" come right out of the Madison Avenue mold. Or take her
contention that the "Wall Street guys are working against her."
They're doing this by contributing to her Super PAC, apparently,
because the week prior to saying this Hillary was meeting with the
likes of Bain Capital and Blackrock. It can't denied, Wall Street
money was and is pouring into her campaign.
"When [Clinton] says let's talk about issues and let's look forward,
what she's really saying is let's not talk about my campaign
financing, or my policy history, because it won't bear the scrutiny
my new, new, new progressive brand demands."Look, let's get this
It wasn't very long ago when Hillary Clinton favored the TPP, the
Keystone XL Pipeline and the death penalty. She also opposed gay
marriage and reinstating Glass-Steagall. Her foreign policy is
closer to the neocons who got us into Iraq (which she voted for) than
what the American people favor.
She's flipped on immigration, gun control, and NAFTA.
That's not progressive.
She attributes her changes towards progressivism to "evolving" as a
result of "new information." But as Politico points out, for most of
these issues, there was no new information. For example, what's
changed on gay marriage,
other than public opinion? It also begs a question: if Sanders could
see
the folly of invading Iraq, or the stupidity of repealing
Glass-Steagall, or the gross inequity of trade pacts, why couldn't
she?
Either she has bad judgment, or she's being disingenuous about
flip-flopping.
But now it's apparent that the American people are taking a
progressive turn and so, Hillary is shedding her moderate coat, and
donning her progressive one.
When Mrs. Clinton - filled with righteous indignation - says let's
talk about issues and let's look forward, what she's really saying is
let's not talk about my campaign financing, or my policy history,
because it won't bear the scrutiny my new, new, new progressive brand
demands.
As for whether the money she takes buys influence, the American
people have their own opinion. In a groundbreaking study of American
beliefs called "the Smith Project," here's what they had to say:
The Democratic and Republican Parties are essentially useless in
changing this situation. Americans overwhelmingly agree (78%-15%)
that both political parties are too beholden to special interests to
create any meaningful change.
The Smith Project is one of the most comprehensive analyses of what
Americans believe about the political process and their government,
and they've concluded that money buys favors.
Could Hillary be taking Wall Street's money and not being influenced?
Well,
maybe. But I guarantee this: they will have access to a Clinton White
House that you and I don't.
It's worth noting that in both Obama's administration and in Bill
Clinton's, Wall Street luminaries held many of the top spots in
government, including Secretary of Treasury.
But back to her bait-and-switch persona. It's important because the
American people want conviction and integrity. Switching from long
held positions as the winds change shows little conviction and
questionable integrity. And that contributes to concerns about money
influencing positions.
Essentially, Hillary will be whatever she needs to be to get elected.
It's
about her, not us. Moderate? Progressive? Whatever we want to hear,
apparently.
At the end of the day, Mrs. Clinton is trying to change to meet the
changing times. But the times are calling for revolutionary change,
integrity, and independence, while she's selling herself as a
pragmatic deal-maker who knows how to work the old system.
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Progressive 3.0: Beware the Latest Version of Hillary Clinton
Published on Friday, February 05, 2016 by Common Dreams Progressive
3.0: Beware the Latest Version of Hillary Clinton Some thoughts on
watching last night's Democratic debate by John Atcheson . 40
Comments .
. Former secreatary of state Hillary Clinton takes the stage on
Thursday night for a debate with Sen. Bernie Sanders hosted by MSNBC.
(Photo: Getty)
. Listening to Hillary last night trying to pass herself off as a
progressive is like watching a chameleon change colors to match its
surroundings. Not quite the same, however. The chameleon's move is
defensive. Hillary's is strictly offensive.
. The poll-tested, focus-grouped phrases like "a progressive who gets
things done" come right out of the Madison Avenue mold. Or take her
contention that the "Wall Street guys are working against her."
They're doing this by contributing to her Super PAC, apparently,
because the week prior to saying this Hillary was meeting with the
likes of Bain Capital and Blackrock. It can't denied, Wall Street
money was and is pouring into her campaign.
. "When [Clinton] says let's talk about issues and let's look
forward, what she's really saying is let's not talk about my campaign
financing, or my policy history, because it won't bear the scrutiny
my new, new, new progressive brand demands."Look, let's get this
straight.
. It wasn't very long ago when Hillary Clinton favored the TPP, the
Keystone XL Pipeline and the death penalty. She also opposed gay
marriage and reinstating Glass-Steagall. Her foreign policy is closer
to the neocons who got us into Iraq (which she voted for) than what
the American people favor. She's flipped on immigration, gun control,
and NAFTA.
That's not progressive.
She attributes her changes towards progressivism to "evolving" as a
result of "new information." But as Politico points out, for most of
these issues, there was no new information. For example, what's
changed on gay marriage, other than public opinion? It also begs a
question: if Sanders could see the folly of invading Iraq, or the
stupidity of repealing Glass-Steagall, or the gross inequity of trade
pacts, why couldn't she?
Either she has bad judgment, or she's being disingenuous about
flip-flopping.
But now it's apparent that the American people are taking a
progressive turn and so, Hillary is shedding her moderate coat, and
donning her progressive one.
When Mrs. Clinton - filled with righteous indignation - says let's
talk about issues and let's look forward, what she's really saying is
let's not talk about my campaign financing, or my policy history,
because it won't bear the scrutiny my new, new, new progressive brand
demands.
As for whether the money she takes buys influence, the American
people have their own opinion. In a groundbreaking study of American
beliefs called "the Smith Project," here's what they had to say:
The Democratic and Republican Parties are essentially useless in
changing this situation. Americans overwhelmingly agree (78%-15%)
that both political parties are too beholden to special interests to
create any meaningful change.
The Smith Project is one of the most comprehensive analyses of what
Americans believe about the political process and their government,
and they've concluded that money buys favors.
Could Hillary be taking Wall Street's money and not being influenced?
Well,
maybe. But I guarantee this: they will have access to a Clinton White
House that you and I don't.
It's worth noting that in both Obama's administration and in Bill
Clinton's, Wall Street luminaries held many of the top spots in
government, including Secretary of Treasury.
But back to her bait-and-switch persona. It's important because the
American people want conviction and integrity. Switching from long
held positions as the winds change shows little conviction and
questionable integrity. And that contributes to concerns about money
influencing positions.
Essentially, Hillary will be whatever she needs to be to get elected.
It's
about her, not us. Moderate? Progressive? Whatever we want to hear,
apparently.
At the end of the day, Mrs. Clinton is trying to change to meet the
changing times. But the times are calling for revolutionary change,
integrity, and independence, while she's selling herself as a
pragmatic deal-maker who knows how to work the old system.
