Actually Carter was a mixed bag and had his share of scandel especially with
his cronies nd familiy ( remember Billy and Billy Beer and some nefarious
bankers I cannot remember right now?)
Shows no one is perfect.\\Regardless I agree with the general sentiment that
Carter, while a flawed President was and is our greatest ex-President. Part
of my opinion goes to what you write here.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 9:48 PM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate Legacy
With Foreign Fossil Fuel Investments:
Jimmy Carter has done a lot of good internationally since his retirement. He
has been concerned about the integrity of elections throughout the world. He
has told the truth about apartheid in Israel and for that, he has been
shunned by the Democratic party establishment ever since. I remember that he
was tossed off a convention program because of his stance on the Palestinian
issue. He's made other unpopular, but true statements from time to time, and
he is very much part of his rural, working class church community. He was
an outsider from the start and was given a bad rap by the media and
establishment from the start. If he did anything good as President, you
certainly wouldn't have heard about it in the mainstream media. I'm reading
a very interesting historical book right now, a new book, one that is
relevant. It's called, White Trash, and it's on BARD. I'll probably review
it for the DB Review list if I haven't been banned from the list before I
finish it. I just wrote a rather scathing post , part of a discussion about
all of the reviews of Christmas books that they start doing each year in
October and that don't stop until January. They reread and rereview many of
them, absolute commercial trash and I've had it with all this religiosity
which has nothing to do with real religion or what Christmas is supposed to
be. I expect my computer to burn up with their replies. I basically said
that instead of celebrating Christmas by reading this trash and buying more
things that people don't need, they should be lobbying their politicians to
be sure that all of our people have homes and enough to eat, or they should
find room in their own homes for some refugees from the wars that our
country has been complicit in starting. The real right wing zealots will not
like it.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 8:09 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate Legacy
With Foreign Fossil Fuel Investments:
Yeah, you're right Joe.
I guess I was focused on the nice guy Jimmy, who pulled on his boots and
headed off to help build homes for Habitat. Still, in the scheme of things,
Carter and Obama are good men...just not good for the working class. While
they seem to have lacked real Leadership, they didn't have any personal
scandals or corruption to deal with. Both were quiet Wall Street Lackeys,
true, which made them unable to support the Causes of the working men and
women.
I am sort of wandering around trying to differentiate between Greed driven
men and men who believe in the Oligarchy as the best way to run the
government. Simply put, Carter and Obama do not share my values.
Which just happen to be the Honest and True Values, Just ask me.
Carl Jarvis
On 12/1/16, joe harcz Comcast <joeharcz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Carl and All,solar and wind.
Not to "lionize" or de-monize one James Earl Carter I have some
personal or
tangentential experiences.
Jimmy Carter was by all measures an ineffective at best President do
mostly
to his own design and actions, not only in my opinion but also in my
experience.
He alienated all of the so-called establishment, which is not bad, but
then,
not unlike Trump now replaced the prior establishment with one of his
own and often with nepotism.
Regardless, it has always amused me that J. Carter was some sort of
"Jesus ChristSuper-Star of American politics as often portrayed.
He wasn't so. He was an outsider for sure, not being a part of the
Washington "establishment" for sure.
But what the f was "won".
Whell we avoided nuclear war under Carterwhich isnt to be diminished
by a long or short shot.
Other than that we got in the after math union busting, and all sorts
of other more ugly things of which I'll expound in the future.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Jarvis" <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate
Legacy With Foreign Fossil Fuel Investments:
Maybe. Maybe after securing his family, Obama will bend toward
public service. That's why I put him in the same room as Jimmy Carter.
Carter is a good man, and so is Barack Obama. But neither one was
able to slide around "The Monster in Waiting" who guards the Oval
Office. So both ended up trying to compromise with this unbending
pile of Greed.
If Obama's heart is in the right place, then I'll take him away from
partnering with Silent Cal" who was never a friend to the needy.
But regardless of how he tries following his 8 years, Obama will
always carry the stain of one who had opportunities, but failed to
seize them.
Carl Jarvis
On 12/1/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think that Jimmy Carter has done a lot of good, but that this
happened after his Presidency. And I think that if Obama feels
financially secure, he may also, go on to do some good too, after
his Presidency. But I agree with what Cornell West said this
morning on Democracy Now. Obama is very good at doing symbolic
things and making good speeches. But when it comes to following
through on real action that will help the people, he doesn't .
He
serves Wall Street.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl
Jarvis
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:36 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate
Legacy With Foreign Fossil Fuel Investments:
Speaking of our Prince of Peace, perhaps now that he is about to
shed his "Sheep's Clothing", we'll get a good sense of the toothless
Wolf that has been lurking there these past 8 years.
At best we knew Obama might be one of those very bright men who
could rise above themselves and champion the cause of the Working
Class...sort of filling the shoes left behind by FDR.
But unlike FDR, who, had he retired from his Fourth term as
president, to the luxury of his inherited wealth, Obama has a future
to attend to. He
is
not from money. Making certain that his future, and that of his
family,
is
secure, has to be front and center on his mind.
Obama, no matter how nice a guy he appears to be, has never been the
friend of the Masses. His real genius has been his ability to
maintain his ties to Wall Street, while appearing to sympathize with
the working class.
Certainly the White Republican Congress did block him at every turn,
but
on
the other hand Obama did not fight for much in the way of support
for the American Majority. The best he appears to have dumped on us
is Obamacare, which takes better care of the huge Health Cartel than
of the people.
Obama
may well have earned himself a place alongside Calvin Coolidge, as
one of the nation's most forgettable presidents. At best he might
rise to stand beside Jimmy Carter, but that will depend upon how
much of his "legacy"
remains after the new administration finishes with him.
Obama had his opportunities to stand tall, but he chose to play the
"good son" for his handlers, in the belief that his future is held
in their golden hands.
One thing Obama did accomplish, he helped me decide that I would no
longer call myself a Democrat.
Carl Jarvis
On 11/30/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate Legacy With Foreign Fossil Fuelcapacity.
Investments: Investigation
Published on
Wednesday, November 30, 2016
by
Common Dreams
Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate Legacy With Foreign Fossil Fuel
Investments: Investigation
Under Obama, Ex-Im Bank has gotten three times more financing than
during George W. Bush's terms by Andrea Germanos, staff writer
A coal-fired power plant near Becker, Minnesota. (Photo: Tony
Webster/flickr/cc)
President Barack Obama's climate credentials are being undermined
by a federal agency in his administration that is putting billions
of taxpayer dollars into foreign fossil fuel projects.
So finds a Columbia School of Journalism and Guardian investigation
published Wednesday which looks at the U.S. Export-Import Bank, or
Ex-Im Bank, which is tasked with promoting U.S. exports.
Based on documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act,
their investigation found: "Since January 2009, the U.S.
Export-Import Bank has signed almost $34bn worth of low-interest
loans and guarantees to companies and foreign governments to build,
expand, and promote fossil fuel projects abroad."
That total is roughly "three times more financing than the
taxpayer-backed bank provided during George W. Bush's two terms,
and almost twice the amount financed with loans and guarantees
under the administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and
Bill Clinton-combined"
The biggest investment was almost $5bn in 2012 to Dow Chemical and
Saudi Aramco for a power boiler and heat exchange manufacturing for
a new petrochemical plant in the kingdom.
The financing hit a peak of $10bn in 2013. In that year, as climate
advocacy group Friends of the Earth (FOE) has noted, Obama
"announced an end to public financing for coal plants abroad,
except in limited circumstances."
The new reporting continues:
Our investigation shows the president's domestic climate policies,
including the 1.1bn ton carbon reduction promised with his new
vehicle engine efficiency standards and the 2.5bn ton carbon
savings the pending clean power plan is estimated to make, will
largely be erased by the bank's overseas emissions.
The climate impact of greenhouse gas emissions is the same, the
reporting notes, whether they are spewed out from somewhere in the
U.S. or elsewhere in the world. The investigation adds:
Using information from the Energy Information Administration, if
the Clean Power Plan were enacted this year, over the next 15 years
it would reduce U.S. carbon emissions by about 2.5bn tons. That is
nearly the same number that the Ex-Im Bank's overseas fossil fuel
projects will produce over 15 years, assuming they were all running
at full
It's not the first time the bank has come under fire for fueling
climate change.
Environment advocacy group Pacific Environment, for example, said
in
2012 that "[t]he Obama Administration is supporting skyrocketing
export subsidies for dirty fossil fuels" via the bank. "Ex-Im
Bank's worsening fossil fuel binge makes a mockery out of the U.S.
Government's stated efforts to curb climate change and President
Obama's pledge to phase out fossil fuel subsidies," said Doug
Norlen, the group's policy director, at the time.
ThinkProgress also wrote last year that FOE has been fighting
against Ex-Im's practices since 2002, when the group issued a
lawsuit against the bank over its support of natural gas projects.
The group has been trying to make sure the bank stops financing
fossil fuel projects that can be harmful to the environment and
local people, and instead finance renewable energy projects, such as
exports.FOE is also pushing for the Ex-Im Bank to have a high level of
transparency with properly enforced regulations."
The Ex-Im Bank's future, however, is uncertain. Politico writes
that it "has been operating at less than full capacity for nearly a
year and a half."
The
New York Times reports: "In December, the bank's bipartisan
supporters in Congress secured the agency's reopening," but Senate
Banking Chairman Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) "bottled up President
Obama's nomination of a third member for the bank's five-person
board. Only the board can approve transactions of more than $10
million; without a quorum of three it cannot,"
the Times wrote.
For his part, President-elect Donald Trump said last year, "I'd be
against it" and called the bank "a lot of excess baggage."
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Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate Legacy With Foreign Fossil Fuel
Investments: Investigation
Published on
Wednesday, November 30, 2016
by
Common Dreams
Obama Quietly Undercutting Climate Legacy With Foreign Fossil Fuel
Investments: Investigation
Under Obama, Ex-Im Bank has gotten three times more financing than
during George W. Bush's terms by Andrea Germanos, staff writer . 9
Comments .
. A coal-fired power plant near Becker, Minnesota. (Photo: Tony
Webster/flickr/cc)
. President Barack Obama's climate credentials are being undermined
by a federal agency in his administration that is putting billions
of taxpayer dollars into foreign fossil fuel projects.
. So finds a Columbia School of Journalism and Guardian
investigation published Wednesday which looks at the U.S.
Export-Import Bank, or Ex-Im Bank, which is tasked with promoting U.S.
solar and wind.. Based on documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act,capacity.
their investigation found: "Since January 2009, the U.S.
Export-Import Bank has signed almost $34bn worth of low-interest
loans and guarantees to companies and foreign governments to build,
expand, and promote fossil fuel projects abroad."
. That total is roughly "three times more financing than the
taxpayer-backed bank provided during George W. Bush's two terms,
and almost twice the amount financed with loans and guarantees
under the administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and
Bill Clinton-combined"
The biggest investment was almost $5bn in 2012 to Dow Chemical and
Saudi Aramco for a power boiler and heat exchange manufacturing for
a new petrochemical plant in the kingdom.
The financing hit a peak of $10bn in 2013. In that year, as climate
advocacy group Friends of the Earth (FOE) has noted, Obama
"announced an end to public financing for coal plants abroad,
except in limited circumstances."
The new reporting continues:
Our investigation shows the president's domestic climate policies,
including the 1.1bn ton carbon reduction promised with his new
vehicle engine efficiency standards and the 2.5bn ton carbon
savings the pending clean power plan is estimated to make, will
largely be erased by the bank's overseas emissions.
The climate impact of greenhouse gas emissions is the same, the
reporting notes, whether they are spewed out from somewhere in the
U.S. or elsewhere in the world. The investigation adds:
Using information from the Energy Information Administration, if
the Clean Power Plan were enacted this year, over the next 15 years
it would reduce U.S. carbon emissions by about 2.5bn tons. That is
nearly the same number that the Ex-Im Bank's overseas fossil fuel
projects will produce over 15 years, assuming they were all running
at full
It's not the first time the bank has come under fire for fueling
climate change.
Environment advocacy group Pacific Environment, for example, said
in
2012 that "[t]he Obama Administration is supporting skyrocketing
export subsidies for dirty fossil fuels" via the bank. "Ex-Im
Bank's worsening fossil fuel binge makes a mockery out of the U.S.
Government's stated efforts to curb climate change and President
Obama's pledge to phase out fossil fuel subsidies," said Doug
Norlen, the group's policy director, at the time.
ThinkProgress also wrote last year that FOE has been fighting
against Ex-Im's practices since 2002, when the group issued a
lawsuit against the bank over its support of natural gas projects.
The group has been trying to make sure the bank stops financing
fossil fuel projects that can be harmful to the environment and
local people, and instead finance renewable energy projects, such as
FOE is also pushing for the Ex-Im Bank to have a high level of
transparency with properly enforced regulations."
The Ex-Im Bank's future, however, is uncertain. Politico writes
that it "has been operating at less than full capacity for nearly a
year and a half."
The
New York Times reports: "In December, the bank's bipartisan
supporters in Congress secured the agency's reopening," but Senate
Banking Chairman Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) "bottled up President
Obama's nomination of a third member for the bank's five-person
board. Only the board can approve transactions of more than $10
million; without a quorum of three it cannot,"
the Times wrote.
For his part, President-elect Donald Trump said last year, "I'd be
against it" and called the bank "a lot of excess baggage."
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