Interesting point of view, Mostafa. I'm not certain where it changed,
but I was following the opinion of Mostafa, and suddenly you were
saying, "We". Who are "We"? You have made your point that you hate
Americans who do not conform to your Beliefs, but you seem not to
understand that you are seen in the same light. Contempt and hatred
only lead to violence, and we seem to be well along on that road.
If we survive the next 100 years, we may come to a place where we
understand that we are all brothers and sisters, and that we must join
together if we are to save our human species
Carl Jarvis
On 4/19/19, Mostafa Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The west has harbored the theory of integrating faith with secular
concepts. They base this on two major factors. First, each and
everyone is wholly entitled to believe in whatever system of belief or
even not to believe in anything at all. Faith in the west is due to
majorly serve the terrestrial hierarchy. Second, faith is not to have
any impact on social order. Nonetheless, it gravely affects politics
as we shall see. The defection of faith has grown vigorously. Even
though many people seem to be mentally settled, they are statically
flustered. Hence, people may attend Church regularly and still drink,
engage in illicit wedlock and so forth. Faith in the west pursues to
legitimatise knavery and reprehensible conduct. The fact that we see
many evangelists of the States endorsing Donald Trump despite his
plainly impeachable status and his totally unethical disposal proves
the grave putrescence of faith affiliated institutions in America and
beyond. The broader scope of faith pertained communities in the United
States have fully complied to financially subsidize the Zionist
establishment. Even though more than half of Israel's population are
religiously lapsed or heathenish, they are yet recognised and credited
by whitened Protestants. I once saw a Christian joined by an Atheists
mocking Islam on an American television program, spoken in Arabic.
Islam is their common enemy per say. In spite of the fact that the
Bible allegedly holds Jews accountable of bedeviling and crucifying
Christ, Christians submissively abided by the Jewish version of
Christianity. Conspiring with the Romans, Jews have been said to have
crucified Jesus. That's the old narrative of the tale. Now, Romans
became an epistle to the scripture, written by whom Christians today
call, Saint or Apostle Paul. Christian faith is fundamentally
pirated by Jews. It has been abused by them. Thence, a newly born
denomination has been found. Christians used to demote and indict Jews
of murdering Jesus. As for now, they have awkwardly appeased to them.
In spite of the false claim that faith and state governance of America
are severable, in essence, they are amply indivisible. Essentially,
faith has denotative reflection on politics and state ruling affairs.
Otherwise, we would have not bore witness to Capitol Hill staff
okaying everything Israel does, even if it may directly collide with
national interest. Lastly, faith is prevented to intercept into
anything associated with social concerns. It doesn't matter to Church
how do you worship, how and who do you date nor what do you eat and
drink. However, Church and its affiliates are relentlessly coerced to
unconditionally support, care of and provide to Israel anything it
needs, including various artilleries. Wait, aren't we suppose to be
demanding and chanting peace? Yes but, well, Israel is besieged by
plenty of enemies. Therefore, it must be sufficiently fortified, so it
could defend itself in the case of emergency. Despite Israel
periodically murdering innocent civilians including defenceless women
and children, it is given weapons by those peaceful Protestants. The
latter has substantially aided Israel to carry on numerous acts of
aggression and bombardment to fully civil empyreans as of Gaza Strip
and the West Bank. And when Hamas impel projectiles onto the
transgressive entity in an act of just retaliation, they are
counterfeitly impeached of putatively perpetrating terror. Who are
those white Americans to give themselves the authority to categorise
people as to who is terrorist versus who is not? I hope you fathom now
why do we despise your nation's foreign policy and particularly, in
the Middle East. Going forward, don't lie to us, claiming that faith
doesn't affect political actions because it certainly does. It has
been just removed from social affairs.
On 4/18/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
If the Mormon church has endorsed gay marriage I have not heard about it
myself, but I would consider it an advance and to be praised if it is
true. However, I do know of another capitulation that the Mormons made
to the secular state. It was when they gave up polygamy. They made
claims that it was some kind of theological change at the direction of
their deity, but I don't think it was a coincidence that it coincided
with the admission of Utah as a state.
---
Christopher Hitchens
“ What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence. ”
― Christopher Hitchens,
On 4/18/2019 2:10 PM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:
In the west today, the religious community battles to survive as
social order continues to be gradually secularised. On a rather
broader scale, the religious community submissively relinquishes many
of its traditional tenets in order to somewhat cope with the massively
dominant secular influence. So for instance, I recently read in the
news, that the Mormon Church approved recognising married couples who
might not be necessarily straight. I am not sure though, if this is
decisively factual. I therefore may ask some Mormon officials or lay
believers to comment on this. If what has been said is true,
homoeroticism is then ratified at their Church. This comes under
implicit pressure as its regular visitors somehow coerced the
denominational leaders to comply. This is a quite natural result of
tolerating faith abandonment. Thence, faith disciples felt desolated,
so they coercively apostatised. Religion is differently experienced
here in the rather Middle Eastern region. Faith formed our major
social relationships as of marriage and other affairs. It furthermore
consociates regulations of what might be jurally defined as Islamic
commerce. Faith in the west in general is majorly tied with unpleasant
memories that are rooted back to medieval era. At that time, the
Catholic Church ruled and ignominiously strangulated intellectual
enlightenment and all sorts of scientific development. While on the
other end of the spectrum, Islam elucidates its embracers and
encourages them to learn, think and explore. The extraordinarily
monumentalised civilisation of Andalusia in modernly southern Spain
has outstanding portraitures of brilliant architecture, medicinal and
scientific contributions that are substantially beneficial even today.
These great features bear witness to the proposition that confirms the
smooth affiliation of faith and knowledge. How could someone still
claim that religion is a major barrier to modernity? Without evasion
or equivocation, please, you may tackle this concern. I definitely
find no convincing motive to become Atheist. The justification of
science is nearly scrambled, so what else? I am thrilled to receive
people's comments. I am okay with people voicing their various
opinions even if they fundamentally dissent with mine as long as
deference is mutually maintained. I expect though to be dissed by some
as usual. I just hope to hold a respectful discussion with someone who
is properly educated and concurrently, strongly dissents with me.
--
(Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a
shoreless ocean.)
