Miriam,
Each of us makes choices as to how we will attempt to make our way
through the Wilderness of Life. Carlos has made choices that, for
him, have been modestly successful. That in and of itself is
amazing, considering the mass confusion being dumped on our heads
daily...and without interruption.
While the Carlos's of the world may never stand up as leaders, they
have become aware enough that if conditions do become right, they will
join the rank and file.
Carl Jarvis
On 1/14/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
He probably knows him. But Carlos has told me a story about how he was very
radical when he was young and one day, an old lady who lived in his
neighborhood said something to the effect that all of this Communist stuff
is all well and good, but you have to live in the real world. I don't know
if this old lady really existed, but I do know that Carlos, who comes from
a
large, poor family in the South Bronx and has several acquaintances who
have
been involved in rather shady occupations, has, like most of his siblings,
managed to get an education, and earn enough money to own a home in a
suburb
in Suffolk County, Long Island, and knows how to con people. Carlos would
tell you that he's a realist and he reads Hedges and Chomsky, but isn't
going to follow Hedges to the barricades. I remember how upset he was when
Helen Thomas was fired.
Miriam
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Has Carlos read anything by Juan Gonzalez?
He was one of the founders of the Young Lords, and is quite Progressive.
He can be heard on Democracy Now, as you know. Mostly on Thursdays and
Fridays.
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On 1/13/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carlos came to, once again, deal with a computer issue for me. And weone corrupt party.
were having this same conversation. As a young man, he was a member of
the Young Lords, the puerto Rican equivalent of the Black Panthers,
well almost the equivalent. But now I'm to his left politically. So
when I said that I can't, in good conscience, vote for Hillary, his
response was that if she gets the nomination, we have no choice. And I
get what he's saying. I can vote for Jill Stein. He said that I'd be
throwing away my vote. He said, "Look what happened with ralph nader
in 2000". He believes Nader's candidacy is to blame for the Bush
presidency. I've read that, this is untrue. But anyway, I know what
he's saying. We can talk about how we need to change the whole system,
you and I and Chris Hedges, and Roger, but the fact is, it isn't going
to happen in 2016. We can feel pure and uncorrupted by not being part
of this terrible system. But we know that there aren't enough people
or enough organizers to have the kind of revolutionary change that we
want. You see who gets the headlines, Trump. Bernie Sanders, who's no
radical, will be eaten alive or co-opted. At least Carlos who reads
stuff, knows who Jill Stein is. No one else to whom I've mentioned her
name, has ever heard of her.
Miriam
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Thom hartman is one of those commentators I try to listen to during
the week. But as much as I appreciate his views on a wide range of
issues, I remember that Thom Hartman is a Liberal Democrat. He still
believes we can work within the existing political system to make real
progress. I contend that this is a vain hope. The two parties are
really
Hartman supports Bernie Sanders, but is ready to follow Hillaryjust by his own Party.
Clinton, should Bernie fail to win the Parties nod. And she will win.
The big guns will come rolling out and Bernie will be ridiculed,
discredited, ignored, and Sodomized...figuratively speaking. And that is
If our working class is to have a bright future, it will take anhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2016-polls-nbc_56927411e4b0cad15e652a11?
uprising and a reformation of the government. It will mean a major
downsizing of our fat-cat military, and the return of our men and
women back home.
Carl Jarvis
On 1/13/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A bit optimistic, wouldn't you say?about "electability"
Miriam
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Bernie's Insurgent Campaign Is Starting to Make the Corporate
Democrats Panic By Thom Hartmann [1] / AlterNet [2] January 13, 2016
With just three weeks to go before the Iowa caucus, Bernie Sanders is
now in a statistical dead heat with Hillary Clinton. According to a
new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll [3], he trails her by just 3 points
in Iowa, well within the margin of error. In other words, it's a tie.
A dead heat.
This is really, really, really big news.
Sanders is already beating Clinton in New Hampshire, and if he can
pull-off a two-state sweep of the early primaries, that would
completely change the dynamic of the race. And I mean completely.
At this point, national polls don't really matter; what matters is
momentum, and if Bernie can win Iowa and New Hampshire, he would suck
up pretty much all of the momentum.
Now, considering the fact that Bernie Sanders does better than
Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical matchup [4] with Republican
frontrunner Donald Trump, you'd think the establishment Democrats
would be thrilled with these developments. You'd think the people who
talk so much
and how important it is, would be overjoyed that Bernie Sanders, anomination.
popular and electable candidate, is moving toward the Democratic
Apparently not.corporate plans to privatize the commons.
Instead of celebrating the rise of a new star, establishment
Democrats are freaking out about the possibility of Bernie Sanders
winning both Iowa and New Hampshire. Case in point: former Tennessee
congressman Harold Ford, Jr., who on MSNBC agreed with Joe
Scarborough that establishment Dems could recruit John Kerry or Joe
Biden to run if Bernie sweeps both early primary states.
Pretty weird, right?
Here Sanders is inspiring millions of young people to get involved in
politics, and establishment Democrats think it might be a good idea
to draft two guys who've already lost presidential races. Go figure.
But here's the thing: Establishment Democrats aren't stupid - they
should be scared of Bernie Sanders. That's because he represents a
direct threat to the centrists who have ruled the Democratic Party
for the past few decades.
Although he's not as well-known as someone like Karl Rove or Frank
Luntz, Al From is one of the most important political operatives of
the past few decades. A veteran Democratic staffer, he thought his
party moved "too far to the left" during the 1970s, and so, in 1985,
he founded a group [5] known as the Democratic Leadership Council, or
DLC, whose stated goals were "to expand the party's base and appeal
to moderates and liberals."
That obviously sounds nice in theory, but in practice it meant the
destruction of the thing that made the Democratic Party the United
States'
governing party for most of the 20th century: the progressive values
of the New Deal and FDR. Under From's leadership, the DLC staged a
bloodless coup of the Democratic Party, and swapped out the
progressivism of FDR, Truman and Johnson for the corporatism of the
Clintons. Instead of talking about ways to make the US a more just
and equal society, Democrats now talked about things like welfare
reform, so-called free trade and so-called school choice, which were
really just
The final victory in the DLC's takeover of the Democratic Party came
when Bill Clinton was elected president in 1992. Al From had
personally recruited Bill to run for president, and the DLC's ideas
were the basis for most of his policies. Over the next 20 years, the
DLC consolidated its stranglehold over the Democratic Party. And even
though it no longer actually exists (it folded in 2011) the DLC and
its supporters still control the Democratic establishment [6],
especially Hillary Clinton.
Which brings us back to Bernie Sanders. If his wildly successful
campaign has told us anything, it's that Democratic voters are sick
and tired of the DLC-Clintonites running the show. The base of the
Democratic Party is still progressive [7] even if the party bigwigs
have sold out to the corporatists.
They want to go back to the values that made the Democratic Party the
United States' governing party from the New Deal until the 1990s.
They want real change, not Republican-lite policies pretending to be
progressive. And so, they're siding with Bernie Sanders in the 2016
presidential election.
As I said earlier, establishment Democrats should be scared. Bernie's
campaign is showing cracks in their junta and the coup that Al From
staged more than two decades ago is on the verge of collapsing.
Thom Hartmann [8] is an author and nationally syndicated daily talk
show host. His newest book is "The Crash of 2016: The Plot to Destroy
America - and What We Can Do to Stop It. [9]"
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Bernie's Insurgent Campaign Is Starting to Make the Corporate
Democrats Panic By Thom Hartmann [1] / AlterNet [2] January 13, 2016
With just three weeks to go before the Iowa caucus, Bernie Sanders is
now in a statistical dead heat with Hillary Clinton. According to a
new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll [3], he trails her by just 3 points
in Iowa, well within the margin of error. In other words, it's a tie.
A dead heat.
This is really, really, really big news.
Sanders is already beating Clinton in New Hampshire, and if he can
pull-off a two-state sweep of the early primaries, that would
completely change the dynamic of the race. And I mean completely.
At this point, national polls don't really matter; what matters is
momentum, and if Bernie can win Iowa and New Hampshire, he would suck
up pretty much all of the momentum.
Now, considering the fact that Bernie Sanders does better than
Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical matchup [4] with Republican
frontrunner Donald Trump, you'd think the establishment Democrats
would be thrilled with these developments. You'd think the people who
talk so much
and how important it is, would be overjoyed that Bernie Sanders, anomination.
popular and electable candidate, is moving toward the Democratic
Apparently not.corporate plans to privatize the commons.
Instead of celebrating the rise of a new star, establishment
Democrats are freaking out about the possibility of Bernie Sanders
winning both Iowa and New Hampshire. Case in point: former Tennessee
congressman Harold Ford, Jr., who on MSNBC agreed with Joe
Scarborough that establishment Dems could recruit John Kerry or Joe
Biden to run if Bernie sweeps both early primary states.
Pretty weird, right?
Here Sanders is inspiring millions of young people to get involved in
politics, and establishment Democrats think it might be a good idea
to draft two guys who've already lost presidential races. Go figure.
But here's the thing: Establishment Democrats aren't stupid - they
should be scared of Bernie Sanders. That's because he represents a
direct threat to the centrists who have ruled the Democratic Party
for the past few decades.
Although he's not as well-known as someone like Karl Rove or Frank
Luntz, Al From is one of the most important political operatives of
the past few decades. A veteran Democratic staffer, he thought his
party moved "too far to the left" during the 1970s, and so, in 1985,
he founded a group [5] known as the Democratic Leadership Council, or
DLC, whose stated goals were "to expand the party's base and appeal
to moderates and liberals."
That obviously sounds nice in theory, but in practice it meant the
destruction of the thing that made the Democratic Party the United
States'
governing party for most of the 20th century: the progressive values
of the New Deal and FDR. Under From's leadership, the DLC staged a
bloodless coup of the Democratic Party, and swapped out the
progressivism of FDR, Truman and Johnson for the corporatism of the
Clintons. Instead of talking about ways to make the US a more just
and equal society, Democrats now talked about things like welfare
reform, so-called free trade and so-called school choice, which were
really just
The final victory in the DLC's takeover of the Democratic Party came
when Bill Clinton was elected president in 1992. Al From had
personally recruited Bill to run for president, and the DLC's ideas
were the basis for most of his policies. Over the next 20 years, the
DLC consolidated its stranglehold over the Democratic Party. And even
though it no longer actually exists (it folded in 2011) the DLC and
its supporters still control the Democratic establishment [6],
especially Hillary Clinton.
Which brings us back to Bernie Sanders. If his wildly successful
campaign has told us anything, it's that Democratic voters are sick
and tired of the DLC-Clintonites running the show. The base of the
Democratic Party is still progressive [7] even if the party bigwigs
have sold out to the corporatists.
They want to go back to the values that made the Democratic Party the
United States' governing party from the New Deal until the 1990s.
They want real change, not Republican-lite policies pretending to be
progressive. And so, they're siding with Bernie Sanders in the 2016
presidential election.
As I said earlier, establishment Democrats should be scared. Bernie's
campaign is showing cracks in their junta and the coup that Al From
staged more than two decades ago is on the verge of collapsing.
Thom Hartmann [8] is an author and nationally syndicated daily talk
show host. His newest book is "The Crash of 2016: The Plot to Destroy
America - and What We Can Do to Stop It. [9]"
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