I notice how these rough and tumble, right wing survivalist, anti-government
types need to rely on the internet (a government invention) and the U.S. mail
(a government entity) to survive, idiots they may be.
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:28 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Armed, Pathetic and Hungry: How the Oregon
Militants' Revolutionary Plan Went Sideways
Too bad our government can't be as sane and practical when it comes to non
Christian non white insane people.
Miriam
Dickinson writes: "The armed standoff in remote southeast Oregon, where white
militants led by the Bundy clan have taken over federal buildings at a wildlife
refuge, isn't going according to plan."
Ammon Bundy is leading the militia standoff in Burns, Oregon. (photo: Rob
Kerr/AFP/Getty Images)
Armed, Pathetic and Hungry: How the Oregon Militants' Revolutionary Plan Went
Sideways By Tim Dickinson, Rolling Stone
05 January 16
The "Y'all Qaeda" militia is short on people, supplies and food
The armed standoff in remote southeast Oregon, where white militants led by the
Bundy clan have taken over federal buildings at a wildlife refuge, isn't going
according to plan.
The would-be insurrectionists are undermanned, undersupplied and exhausted.
They've been unable to provoke the confrontation with federal agents that they
chest-thumpingly declared themselves willing to die in. And they've found
themselves roundly mocked on social media as "Yee-hawdists" in the service of
"Y'all Qaeda," "Yokel Haram" or "Vanilla ISIS."
Taking up arms against the federal government is no laughing matter, of course.
And if the militants were black, brown or Muslim, they'd likely be dead by now.
But for a group of heavily armed Christian white dudes play-acting at
revolution, things could hardly be going worse.
On Monday night, in fact, one Bundy brother told Oregon Public Broadcasting the
militiamen might be willing to move along now - if the community requests it:
"This is their county - we can't be here and force this on them," Ryan Bundy
said. "If they don't want to retrieve their rights, and if the county people
tell us to leave, we'll leave."
How did the Bundy plan for revolution go sideways? The troubled evolution of
the plot can be traced via Ammon Bundy's social media presence.
December 29
The grand scheme to take a "hard stand" against federal "tyranny" took shape in
the days after Christmas. In a video posted December 29, Ammon Bundy, son of
the infamous deadbeat rancher Cliven, decried the "tremendous abuses"
faced by a pair of Oregon cattlemen convicted of arson by the federal
government. "We have to say that either we're OK with these gross, blatant
violations of the constitution. or we make a stand," Bundy declared.
That's when Bundy, fighting tears, issued a call to action to his family's
militant, anti-government supporters: "I'm asking you - and you know who you
are: You that came, and you that felt to come, to the Bundy Ranch - I'm asking
you to come to Burns [Oregon] on January 2, to make a stand."
December 31
Almost from the beginning, there were warning signs that this plot wasn't
gelling, because of internal strife in the "patriot" community. In his next
video, posted on New Year's Eve, a nervous looking Ammon Bundy calls out to
militia members across the country. He pleads with them to flout the orders of
militia leaders who, he reveals, had been calling for a "stand down" - instead
of a standoff - in Oregon.
Looking into the camera lens, Bundy says: "I am wanting to talk to the
individual, to the patriot. This is not the time to stand down," he says, "It's
time to stand up. And come to Harney County. We need your help. And we're
asking for it. No matter what your leader says. you need to get to Burns on the
2nd."
January 2
Bundy did find followers, including men like John Ritzheimer, the Arizona man
who organized the gun-toting protest of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix
last October. Ritzheimer ventured to Oregon and declared himself, in a goodbye
video to his family, "100 percent willing to lay my life down to fight against
tyranny in this country."
Seizing an unoccupied federal complex wasn't the tricky part. Following a
demonstration on the streets of Burns on Saturday, January 2, the Bundy
militiamen drove 30 miles south to execute their takeover of the compound at
the federal Malheur National Wildlife Refuge - which was closed for the
weekend, and to which somehow they had obtained a full set of keys.
The Malheur complex has more than half a dozen buildings, and one, major
strategic asset for men with guns: a massive fire-watch tower, easily converted
for use by snipers.
In the immediate aftermath of the Saturday takeover, Bundy talked a big
game: "We're planning on staying here for years, absolutely," he said. "This is
not a decision we've made at the last minute."
The militants also told reporters that their numbers were legion - as many as
150. Oddly, however, Bundy also issued a call for backup: "Those who...
feel the need to stand, we're asking them to come. We have a facility that we
can house them in. We need you to come and be unified with us so we can be
protected," he said.
January 3
By light of day it becomes clear the militants' manpower was greatly
exaggerated: Credible estimates from visitors to the complex put their number
at fewer than two dozen, and perhaps as low as 15 men. And this skeleton crew
is clearly struggling to secure the sprawling complex in the bitter cold of the
Oregon high desert, where temperatures drop into the single digits at night.
By Sunday night a visibly exhausted Ammon Bundy made a new call for
reinforcement, invoking his divine inspiration: "I know that what we did is
right. I know the Lord is involved, and I know that we're going to see great
things come from this," Bundy said. "But we need you. We need you," he pleaded.
"We have a group of wonderful people here that are strong. We've got good
numbers. But there is a lot to do, and we will eventually get tired if we do
not have help. We also need more of a defense. Need to make sure that there is
enough people here that nobody comes down upon us - and that is a very real
reality right now. So we need you to come and we need you be part of this."
January 4
The militant's preparedness for an as-long-as-it-takes standoff was similarly
laughable. By Monday, it was clear the militants were under-resourced, and
hungry. Supporters put out a call online to send "supplies and snacks."
Another self-described "patriot," Maureen Peltier, took to Facebook with a
laundry list of desired supplies, including foil, hygiene needs and locks, and
provided an address where supporters can send them.
Ironically, the same folks who are seeking a local overthrow of the federal
government still seem to have confidence the government will deliver their mail.
As the standoff has dragged on, the federal government seems content to let the
militants freeze in isolation - and tire of their make-believe revolution.
Even once-reliably anti-government Republicans are turning their backs: Ted
Cruz, who once sympathized with Cliven Bundy's stand against the Obama
administration's "jackboot authoritarianism," has called on Bundy's sons to
"stand down."
The Harney County Sheriff released a statement saying flatly: "It's time for
you to leave our community."
Even the wife of one of the two local ranchers - for whose honor and justice
the militants claim to be ready to lay down their lives - has been throwing
shade: "I don't really know the purpose of the guys who are out there," she
told Oregon Public Broadcasting.
Where We Are Now
Instead of building the fearsome anti-government insurgency of their fever
dreams, the hungry, dirty, exhausted Bundy militants are looking more and more
like the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. Here's hoping they have the sense
to lay down their weapons before their true marksmanship is tested.
Error! Hyperlink reference not valid. Error! Hyperlink reference not valid.
Ammon Bundy is leading the militia standoff in Burns, Oregon. (photo: Rob
Kerr/AFP/Getty Images)
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/armed-pathetic-and-hungry-how-the
-oregon-militants-revolutionary-plan-went-sideways-20160105https://www.rolli
ngstone.com/politics/news/armed-pathetic-and-hungry-how-the-oregon-militants
-revolutionary-plan-went-sideways-20160105
Armed, Pathetic and Hungry: How the Oregon Militants' Revolutionary Plan Went
Sideways By Tim Dickinson, Rolling Stone
05 January 16
The "Y'all Qaeda" militia is short on people, supplies and food he armed
standoff in remote southeast Oregon, where white militants led by the Bundy
clan have taken over federal buildings at a wildlife refuge, isn't going
according to plan.
The would-be insurrectionists are undermanned, undersupplied and exhausted.
They've been unable to provoke the confrontation with federal agents that they
chest-thumpingly declared themselves willing to die in. And they've found
themselves roundly mocked on social media as "Yee-hawdists" in the service of
"Y'all Qaeda," "Yokel Haram" or "Vanilla ISIS."
Taking up arms against the federal government is no laughing matter, of course.
And if the militants were black, brown or Muslim, they'd likely be dead by now.
But for a group of heavily armed Christian white dudes play-acting at
revolution, things could hardly be going worse.
On Monday night, in fact, one Bundy brother told Oregon Public Broadcasting the
militiamen might be willing to move along now - if the community requests it:
"This is their county - we can't be here and force this on them," Ryan Bundy
said. "If they don't want to retrieve their rights, and if the county people
tell us to leave, we'll leave."
How did the Bundy plan for revolution go sideways? The troubled evolution of
the plot can be traced via Ammon Bundy's social media presence.
December 29
The grand scheme to take a "hard stand" against federal "tyranny" took shape in
the days after Christmas. In a video posted December 29, Ammon Bundy, son of
the infamous deadbeat rancher Cliven, decried the "tremendous abuses"
faced by a pair of Oregon cattlemen convicted of arson by the federal
government. "We have to say that either we're OK with these gross, blatant
violations of the constitution. or we make a stand," Bundy declared.
That's when Bundy, fighting tears, issued a call to action to his family's
militant, anti-government supporters: "I'm asking you - and you know who you
are: You that came, and you that felt to come, to the Bundy Ranch - I'm asking
you to come to Burns [Oregon] on January 2, to make a stand."
December 31
Almost from the beginning, there were warning signs that this plot wasn't
gelling, because of internal strife in the "patriot" community. In his next
video, posted on New Year's Eve, a nervous looking Ammon Bundy calls out to
militia members across the country. He pleads with them to flout the orders of
militia leaders who, he reveals, had been calling for a "stand down" - instead
of a standoff - in Oregon.
Looking into the camera lens, Bundy says: "I am wanting to talk to the
individual, to the patriot. This is not the time to stand down," he says, "It's
time to stand up. And come to Harney County. We need your help. And we're
asking for it. No matter what your leader says. you need to get to Burns on the
2nd."
January 2
Bundy did find followers, including men like John Ritzheimer, the Arizona man
who organized the gun-toting protest of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix
last October. Ritzheimer ventured to Oregon and declared himself, in a goodbye
video to his family, "100 percent willing to lay my life down to fight against
tyranny in this country."
Seizing an unoccupied federal complex wasn't the tricky part. Following a
demonstration on the streets of Burns on Saturday, January 2, the Bundy
militiamen drove 30 miles south to execute their takeover of the compound at
the federal Malheur National Wildlife Refuge - which was closed for the
weekend, and to which somehow they had obtained a full set of keys.
The Malheur complex has more than half a dozen buildings, and one, major
strategic asset for men with guns: a massive fire-watch tower, easily converted
for use by snipers.
In the immediate aftermath of the Saturday takeover, Bundy talked a big
game: "We're planning on staying here for years, absolutely," he said. "This is
not a decision we've made at the last minute."
The militants also told reporters that their numbers were legion - as many as
150. Oddly, however, Bundy also issued a call for backup: "Those who...
feel the need to stand, we're asking them to come. We have a facility that we
can house them in. We need you to come and be unified with us so we can be
protected," he said.
January 3
By light of day it becomes clear the militants' manpower was greatly
exaggerated: Credible estimates from visitors to the complex put their number
at fewer than two dozen, and perhaps as low as 15 men. And this skeleton crew
is clearly struggling to secure the sprawling complex in the bitter cold of the
Oregon high desert, where temperatures drop into the single digits at night.
By Sunday night a visibly exhausted Ammon Bundy made a new call for
reinforcement, invoking his divine inspiration: "I know that what we did is
right. I know the Lord is involved, and I know that we're going to see great
things come from this," Bundy said. "But we need you. We need you," he pleaded.
"We have a group of wonderful people here that are strong. We've got good
numbers. But there is a lot to do, and we will eventually get tired if we do
not have help. We also need more of a defense. Need to make sure that there is
enough people here that nobody comes down upon us - and that is a very real
reality right now. So we need you to come and we need you be part of this."
January 4
The militant's preparedness for an as-long-as-it-takes standoff was similarly
laughable. By Monday, it was clear the militants were under-resourced, and
hungry. Supporters put out a call online to send "supplies and snacks."
Another self-described "patriot," Maureen Peltier, took to Facebook with a
laundry list of desired supplies, including foil, hygiene needs and locks, and
provided an address where supporters can send them.
Ironically, the same folks who are seeking a local overthrow of the federal
government still seem to have confidence the government will deliver their mail.
As the standoff has dragged on, the federal government seems content to let the
militants freeze in isolation - and tire of their make-believe revolution.
Even once-reliably anti-government Republicans are turning their backs: Ted
Cruz, who once sympathized with Cliven Bundy's stand against the Obama
administration's "jackboot authoritarianism," has called on Bundy's sons to
"stand down."
The Harney County Sheriff released a statement saying flatly: "It's time for
you to leave our community."
Even the wife of one of the two local ranchers - for whose honor and justice
the militants claim to be ready to lay down their lives - has been throwing
shade: "I don't really know the purpose of the guys who are out there," she
told Oregon Public Broadcasting.
Where We Are Now
Instead of building the fearsome anti-government insurgency of their fever
dreams, the hungry, dirty, exhausted Bundy militants are looking more and more
like the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. Here's hoping they have the sense
to lay down their weapons before their true marksmanship is tested.
http://e-max.it/posizionamento-siti-web/socialize
http://e-max.it/posizionamento-siti-web/socialize
