Hello Rod and all, If I have understood from your example, I assume the white king is not allowed to capture any of his own pieces that help create the selfchecking -mate net. My solution looks too obvious, so I will submit it, and await your reply, and hope this will get ideas flowing. I suggest: Phase 1 removes a defender from the scene: 1. b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb7 3. Bd4 Bd5, and the white bishop no longer protects an important square. Phase 2 gives self-check mate: 4. c3 c6 5. Qc2 Qc7 6. Qc1 + self-checking mate., Reminiscent of puzzle #1, a queen catching a king on it's back rank, hemmed in by his own pawns. I could throw in h3 and g3 to get the move count to the 8 moves requested. Paul Benson. -----Original Message----- From: Roderick Macdonald - Email Address: rmacd@xxxxxxxx Sent On: 06/10/2010 05:23 Sent To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [blind-chess] Re: Spoiler Alert Chess Puzzle #2 Hi Edward, No, because the knight can be captured on f3. I had a very hard time explaining this puzzle If the black queen had been on e4, for example, and the pawn on g2 had been on g3, then it would be a self-mate because the pawn on e2 could not capture the knight without exposing the king to queck from the black queen. But you have the right idea about putting the king in check from white's own pieces. What we need here is for both players to make similar moves, and white's eighth move will put his own king in imaginary check, and there is no legal move to "get out of it." this one is HARD! rod On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Eddyz69@xxxxxxx wrote: Hello Rod and All, In your scenario wouldn't the simple move of Nf3++ be checkmate against the white king? Edward Zolotarevsky ========== The blind-chess mailing list View list information and change your settings: //www.freelists.org/list/blind-chess List archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/blind-chess =========
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