Hello All, First I show below the information I currently keep for each rung on the Ladder. This is sort of a baseline format for kicking around new ideas. So here is a five line sample: Latest Ladder Order and Player Status Rank Name (color) status 1 Curtis Cockayne (W) defender Cockayne-Zolotarevsky 08/01/2011 2 Donna Jodhan (B) available 3 Rebecca Blaevoet (W) defender Gieschen-Blaevoet 09/08/2011 4 Randy Kruzeniski (B) defender Cooper-Kruzeniski 09/01/2011 5 Chris Chaffin (B) available Question: How long is a Braille display (40 characters?), I suspect the dates may align off the line. So can we rearrange this some? Maybe swap the last two fields when engaged in a game. Think about this while I go find out how to convert the storred dates to MMM DD form. Richard