Hi Richard Gosh, lets keep it simple! I think option 1 is a good one and simple. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: R Dinger <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx> To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:56:53 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [blind-chess] Re: Ladder Question Hi Connie, Thanks for a good question. The current ladder rules make no provision for long games or blocking someone's progress because of a long game. Some ideas are as follows: 1) Early in the Ladder Tournament, Mike A. noted that the FTP Ladder allowed you to challenge the first available player above you at the time of the challenge. We can adopt that rule if most agree. 2) Another solution that Nightrider and I were discussing recently was to allow ignoring the two players on the ladder after a game goes on for more than (say) 4 weeks. Something like the vacation mode I proposed a month or so ago. Then others would "play around" those in the long game. 3) Yet another approach to our Ladder would be to allow challenging anyone on the ladder that is available, but (optionally?) assess a penalty in position if you lose. So, for example, if you challenge someone 5 rungs above you and lose, you would go down 3 rungs instead of just remaining on your current position, because you challenged 3 rungs higher than usual. 4) Another variation is for winner and loser in a challenge to actually swap positions when the challenger wins instead of the winner just moving over the loser. 5) At the same time I would like to propose that if a player wants to challenge more than one available player it should be allowed. The game load would remain at one game at a time if you want since you cannot have any pending challenges, but if someone wants to have more than one game going, that is their choice. Resolution of Ladder position depends on the order in which the games are completed. Any additional suggestions or comments on any of these ideas? Richard ----- Original Message ----- From:jubieq@xxxxxxxxxxx To:blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Question Hi Richard, I was wondering...what happens to players on the ladder when other players are taking a very long time playing their game? This situation currently exists on the Ladder. How can players get past those players in a very long game?