Hello Brandt, This is interesting, but Black moves first. I see Edward already explained where that is stated. Sorry for any confusion. You still have time to try using Black moving first. The objective is not necessarily a mate in the WAC problems often just a tactical advantage. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandt Steenkamp To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:41 PM Subject: [blind-chess] Spoiler alurt, Re: Problem WAC094 Hi, here is 2 atempts of mine, neither much good. Both needlessly long, I think. 1. Qd7+ Qb7 2. Qxa4 Qh7+ 3. e4 Qxh5 4. Qd7+ Kb6 5. Qd8+ Ka7 6. Qe7+ Kb6 7. Qf6+ Kc7 8. Kc4 Qe2+ 9. Kd5 Qd3+ 10. Kxe5 Qxc3+ 11. Ke6 Qb3+ 12. Kf5 Qf3+ 13. Ke5 Qc3+ 14. Ke6 Qb3+ 15. Kf5 Qf3+ 16. Ke5 Qc3+ 17. Kf5 Qf3+ 18. Ke5 1/2-1/2 I whent threw twice, once to make it as short as I can, and a second time to play for a win on either side. I am known for stretching my games out though, so no good on either atempt. Second go threw I got it in 49. Didn't write out my thaught process, am not good with that kinda thing. I just do. 1. Qd7+ Qb7 2. Qxa4 Qh7+ 3. Kc4 Qxh5 4. Qd7+ Kb6 5. Qd6+ Kb7 6. Qe7+ Kc6 7. Qc5+ Kb7 8. Qe7+ Kc6 9. Qf6+ Kc7 10. Kb4 Kb7 11. Qe7+ Ka8 12. Qd8+ Kb7 13. Qd5+ Kb6 14. Qc5+ Kb7 15. Ka5 Qh2 16. Qb6+ Kc8 17. Qxa6+ Kd7 18. Qd3+ Kc7 19. Qc4+ Kd6 20. Kb5 Qd2 21. e4 Qd1 22. Qc6+ Ke7 23. c4 Qb3+ 24. Ka6 Qd3 25. Kb7 Qd4 26. Qd5 Qb2+ 27. Kc8 Qd4 28. c5 Qa1 29. Qd6+ Kf7 30. c6 Qd4 31. Qd7+ Kg6 32. c7 Qb6 33. Qf5+ Kh6 34. Qxe5 Kh7 35. Kd7 Qa7 36. Ke6 Qa6+ 37. Ke7 Qa3+ 38. Kf7 Qa2+ 39. Qd5 Qf2+ 40. Qf5+ Qxf5+ 41. exf5 Kh6 42. Ke7 Kg5 43. c8=Q Kf4 44. f6 Ke3 45. f7 Kf2 46. f8=Q+ Kg3 47. Qc3+ Kg2 48. Qcg7+ Kh1 49. Qfh8# 1-0 Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp I am prowd to be one of the funguys of mushroomFm. Tune in to an Eclectic mess every Friday at 7 AM eastern, or 12 PM in the UK by visiting http://www.mushroomFm.com/ Contact me: Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 Email: brandt.steenkamp@xxxxxxxxx My ring to Skype: California(760), United States +(1)760-5140161 Extension 512 Cape Town, South Africa +(27)213-002317 Extension 161 Johannesburg, South Africa +(27)105-002316 Extension 170 Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 Windows live messenger: brandt.86@xxxxxxxx Twitter: brandtsteenkamp ----- Original Message ----- From: R Dinger To: chess Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: [blind-chess] Problem WAC094 Good Morning Puzzlers, Another WAC series problem. This problem is from Mario Lang's puzzle web page at: http://delysid.org/chess/epd.cgi Problem WAC094 Black to move FEN Problem Setup: 8/ k7/ p7/ 3Qp2P/ n1P5/ 3KP3/ 1q6/ 8 b - - 0 1 Short Algebraic Problem Setup: White: Kd3, Qd5, Pc4, Pe3, Ph5 Black: Ka7, Qb2, Na4, Pa6, Pe5