Well I am here - the two of me were for testing reasons and one will probably vanish. A point contributor might wish to consider is their sig lines. Any e-maill addresses in these can be seen in the archive. In fact Chris has carefully revealed all of us to the world, which may not be what you all wanted, because anyone can read the archives of the list, so you might expect some more spam. Hence my e-mail address and sig line. (In fact normal mortals should not be able to get at the list members, only the admin. However that is a subject for later discussion. Enough for now - nearly home time from the saltmine. BTW those interested in complaining about spam e-mail might do well to visit http://spamcop.net/ - you can report for free. I also have intesting sites like http://www.lavasoft.de/ for the Ad-aware sftware which removes spyware and http://www.adsubstract.com/ which acts as an advert remover when surfing. For those who like to keep their information to themselves and improve download times, they are useful. BFN -- Yours John. *** May the WebForce be with you! ***