Evan, Thank you very much for your explanation. I don't believe Bookshare is even using Duxbury, do you know? Lissy is certainly to be commended. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: the other four I Ching books
Jill, they do show up in the brf files, but they all show up as dot 4. We didn't know that when we started doing the Tolkien books. But at least the Daisy readers and those who can see them will hopefully get what they should. My JAWS at least appears to take account of them when pronouncing words. And maybe, just maybe, the Braille versions will be retranslated someday so that everybody will get the book as it was intended.For Braille readers, Lissi put a key in one book, assigning the various marks a number and giving a long list of names with the appropriate numbers for each mark that appear in each name at the beginning of the book. Quite a lot of work, that! Tolkien was liberal with his diacritical marks.It's too bad that such things are necessary, but when you have a Braille translator that doesn't even do italics - something I still fail to understand since the Hotdots I used over ten years ago was able to translate them correctly - she felt it was needed to prevent Braille readers from being totally clueless about what accent marks appeared where, especially in names where there was more than one kind of mark.Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: the other four I Ching booksEvan, I am a braille reader; if you go to the work of maintaining accent marks, it is my experience that they don't show up in braille. Do you just figure they help the daisy version or what? I'm probably missing something here and would really appreciate clarification. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: the other four I Ching booksI perhaps should have mentioned in my previous message that I had actually done this with a book last January. A validator was working on a book I had scanned, but it had expired and had been taken by someone else who apparently did no work on it. So I contacted the Bookshare staff when the book was validated - actually it was more complicated than that, but this is the relevant part here - and the original submission was replaced with the copy that the validator had spent so much time on. (My scans are good, it was adding accent marks that took quite a bit of work, and the book the validator and I intended was added to the collection.)So I understand your frustration and sadness, but it should help to know that the situation is not irrevocable. Send up the books as they should be when they are done properly and it will be fixed. Don't give up on them! They may be very useful to some people who otherwise will get mangled useless copies if you quit in frustration. I would also recommend in the synopsis when you resubmit them that they contain all the information that will make them useful. That way, anyone who downloaded the previous copies can get the better ones.Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] the other four I Ching booksThe same validator who dilligently took the I Ching books Apparently the other four I Ching books are also on the admin queue. I cannot of course tell but judging from the one on the new books list they also will be missing the charts necessary for using the book.I do wish the validator in question had picked novels to validate.I will keep my tables. I will be able to use the books. The only way anybody else will be able to do so is if I submit them as bso replacements.I am very sad and frustrated at this turn of events. E. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PMTo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM
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