Good evening fellow booksharians: The biggest issue with non-pagebreaked books is the lack of navigation. in validation a book with no breaks and no page #s is extraordinarily difficult to work with because short of reading the whole book (not practical or efficient) there is no way to check for completeness. you could have 10 pages missing in the middle and you would never know. at least with page numbers, if the book is of excellent quality i will take the time to insert the breaks. for instance, i validated a book with page breaks and numbers last night within 20 minutes. it was a superb scan and was easy to confirm that everything was there. if it had no #s or no breaks, i might still be working on it. Also, once validated and in the collection, page breaks make a book much easier to navigate through. the soft breaks that ms word puts in are of little value because those are dependant on the margins set in your particular program. well i'm going to go back validating, i wanna hit 20,000 (with high quality tscans) -- Rui Bookshare.org Unofficial Volunteer Scanning Page http://members.cox.net/booksharescans ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:51 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Will place it here too! I agree with you. My frustration has to do with the page break issue which bookshare has decided to incorporate. I recently had an RTF science fiction book which did not have page numbers. The page breaks were only the ones which word automatically puts in. There were a few spelling errors, but the scan was excellent. I let the book release because I did not want to be the one to reject such a beautiful scan. I can agree with page breaks for nonfiction and text books. However, with easy reading books, I have a problem with the new rules. I love science fiction and fantasy books and would be happy to validate them. However, I refuse to reject an excellent scan because it lacks page numbers and page breaks if it is such type of book. Therefore, whenever I grab a book like such and the only problem is lack of page breaks, I will just be glad that at least I was able to read it. Please reconsider this insane rule regarding light-reading books, or I will be forced to reconsider whether it is worth my time to validate. David -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Reggie & Lonnie Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:38 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Will place it here too! I am getting extremely sick and tired of all the nonsense. I validated and uploaded 5 books last w3eekend. I have now found 3 of them back on the download list and two have been grabbed by someone else. No warning, no statement as to why! If my validation is going to continue like this, I quit, quit, quit!!! I work hard and only have at night and some weekends to do this stuff. The least that Bookshare could do is send me a notice that the book is not good enough and that I should work on it longer and re-upload. As you can tell I am really angry, angry, angry!!! We do not get as validators the same amount, although we work sometimes harder than the people who scan. We need all the money we can make to make the scans better. Now, before I break my keyboard in total, total anger, I will depart. If I am not doing a good job then I will not be back on this list and I will not be re-joining BKS! I am currently fixing a fair book so if it will be returned to the list when I am finished could someone please let me know so I do not, not continue to work hard on this!!! Thanks. Regina Alvarado P.S.: These books were rated excellent! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.806 / Virus Database: 548 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.806 / Virus Database: 548 - Release Date: 12/5/2004