How about kudos, Ann. I agree with what Bob wrote. I sure hope he doesn't take Medals of Honor which I didn't renew on time because if someone wanted to take it that was o.k. with me--but that was before I knew about the problem kids. I'm soon going to start on the book again and am looking forward,to it though it will take a while. Still more tests coming up this week because results of others are conflicting or disparate. Cindy WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS AVAILABLE AT http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Jamie Prater <jdprater@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Jamie Prater <jdprater@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: letter I sent > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 3:27 PM > Hi, I second what Bob has said. > You wrote an excellent letter. I actually hope more > follow in its footsteps to preserve the quality of books in > this fantastic library. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:47 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: letter I sent > > > > Consider this an un-flame. > > > > Well said, well written, and it's about time someone > took some action. > > > > Thanks! > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" > <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "Volunteers, Bookshare" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:30 AM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] letter I sent > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I did as I promised. I have sent a > letter. I have three addresses for NW. > <smiling> One is a University addy, which I > didn't use, but the others are not. I have written the > following message. Perhaps I shouldn't have done this, > but I have done it, so it's finished. If I have > overstepped my bounds, I am sorry, Pavi, but this just made > me so upset! I have included the text of my missive > below. <smiling> All criticisms and flames > about this should go to me privately, OK? We don't > need to tie up the list by castigating this old > busy-body. I do hope that you all will take this > missive in the spirit in which it has been written. I > wrote it privately because I didn't think NW was on the list > here. Here it is. Remember, all flames go to me > privately. > >> > >> Ann P. > >> > >> > >> > >> Good morning Nick, > >> > >> I'm writing to you as an unofficial representative > of the community of volunteers for Bookshare. The > reason I'm writing to you is to ask you politely to stop > pushing books through the Bookshare process in such a short > time. You and another volunteer have made many of us > extremely upset letely because of the way in which you > handle your proofreading duties for Bookshare. > >> > >> We have noticed that you have been taking book > after book after book from the Check-out queue and > downloading them and then reuploading them in an extremely > short time. For example, you recently took a book > scanned by Jamie Yates and downloaded it, then reuploaded it > in four minutes and eleven seconds. Nick, this is way, > way too short a time to proofread a book for > bookshare. You cannot even check for title, author and > copyright information in that length of time. > >> > >> Moreover, you make the meticulous, time-consuming > work done by others a mockery. This is not fair for > several reasons. First, it's not fair to your fellow > volunteers because what you are doing is taking books and > just reuploading them without taking any time at all to > proofread them, these books are uploaded without careful > reading or careful proofing. this makes a lot of people > upset because you're depleting the checkout queue so that > others who really want to do the job right can't do it. > Secondly, since the books you push through the system aren't > truly prooofed, they go onto the library without the second > go-through characteristic of good proofing. Nick, I > have spent the past month reading through a book which I > checked out. This book has caused me no end of > difficulty because it has many, many blank pages and there > are some errors that need to be corrected. However, by > the time I do upload that book, it will be right, and I can > be proud of what I have done. The > >> third and most important reason why what you > are doing is unfair, is that it's ultimately unfair to the > readership. If they get a book which has been > railroaded through the system by you, they get a book that > has not been proofread. Consequently, any metadata on > the condition of that book is false or at least > misleading. It may have missing pages, it may have > garbled pages. It may have page headers that need to > be removed. It may have information that is missing, > captions for photos that are missing, any number of scanos > which would be caught by a proofreader who took his or her > job seriously. That, my friend, damages the reputation > of Bookshare! People won't join the library if they > can't count on finding good, error-free books. You, my > friend, are damaging a dream! Yes, you are damaging a > precious dream that is like a porcelin vase. Don't smash > it! Don't destroy it! > >> > >> Finally, young man, no amount of credit for a > subscription to Bookshare is worth obtaining under false > pretenses. If you don't proof your books, then you are > getting that credit falsely. That's a lie. If > there's one thing in this world I can't abide, it's a > liar! You, sir, are one, and will remain one, until or > unless you clean up your act. Pavi's written to you, > and I trust that you will pay attention to whatever she's > said. I'm writing to you because as a concerned member of > the community I'm writing as one of your peers to put a > leetle more pressure on you to sit up and fly > straight. Believe me, Nick, if you joined the bks-vol > list, like you should, you will hear what others have to say > about you. They aren't please, and they aren't > amused. So, get your act together! If you want > to proof books, join the bks-vol list, read the manual, and > finally, if you can't or won't proofread the books you > download, then don't bother doing it at all. Do it > right or don't do it > >> ! > >> > >> Ann P. > >> > >> -- AAnn K. Parsons > >> Portal Tutoring > >> Email: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Web Site: http://www.portaltutoring.info > >> blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/akp > >> Skype: Putertutor > >> > >> "All that is gold does not glitter, > >> Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > to > >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > subject line. To get a list of available commands, put > the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject > line. 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