It's not the same thing? I didn't know that. What's the difference? I think I have been using the wrong symbol in some of my homework, and noone told me! So I'm more than curious. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amber Wallenstein To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:31 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] a question on ASCII characters I have a question on ASCII characters. I am trying to create the degrees symbol and on the MS word website it says for me to hold down the Alt key plus hit 0176. The problem is that you have to do that with the num. pad and I don't have one, because this is a laptop. I also hit insert plus F4 but don't see the degreese symbol. I see a"Degrees Masculine Ordinal" which is not the same thing. any help appreciated. Amber Book blog: http://community.livejournal.com/book_cuddler/ I have accepted a seat in the House of Representatives, and thereby have consented to my own ruin, to your ruin, and to the ruin of our children. I give you this warning that you may prepare your mind for your fate. John Adams E-Mail: amber.wallens@xxxxxxxxx