Hello All, It's interesting that you bring up the cost of Braille displays. I was looking at a friends Empower unit over the weekend and was still amazed at the price they are charging for Braille displays. These aren't exactly new technology, what they have been around 15 to 20 years now? Also, Yes!, some kind of tactile display would be extremely cool. I know someone posted a note about a printer that can print graphs and charts which I haven't had a chance to look at yet. Katie Hill Miracles happen not in opposition to Nature, but in opposition to what we know of Nature. -St. Augustine -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:45 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: validation confusion Speaking of supporting more than ASCII codes for things, one of my dreams is to have a refreshable tactile screen, which would produce Braille, but would also produce tactile versions of graphs and other line drawings. Perhaps even relief maps. There may be such a thing available now that I don't know about, or in development. But I am sure it would be hideously expensive. Just look at how much one line of 32 or 40 Braille cells costs now. Well, I did say I was dreaming. <smile> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Willyard" <plumlipstick@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: validation confusion > Hi, Lissi and Mickey. My aunt, uncle, and mother qualify as sighted > people who are eligible for Bookshare services because they all have > severe dyslexia. My aunt and uncle cannot read beyond the first grade > level in fact. They use Openbook just like I do and really need to use > speech recognition so they can write effectively. My understanding is > that the reason we remove certain marks like the - is because Braille > embossers don't handle them well. Yet there is also a push to preserve > the text of a book as faithfully as possible. The needs of Braille users > and sighted Bookshare readers will clash in some areas simply because of > the limits of technology. Retaining photos and graphs in text would > probably cause further confusion in brf files. I'm sure they could be > useful to sighted readers though. I think we need to gently prod the > embosser manufacturers to get their embossers out of the dark ages so they > support more than the old ascii codes for things. I'm very glad I'm not > the one who has to make format decisions for the Bookshare service. > (grin) > > > Monica > Visit my blog at: http://plumlipstick.livejournal.com > > At Sunday 6/4/2006 02:05 AM, you wrote: >>Dear Mickey, >> >>You do your best and so do I. We don't need to let differing opinions >>shake us. I kept posting about the subject because I was trying to figure >>it out, but unless we get a mandate from Bookshare, there are bound to be >>differences in our efforts given our different equipment, experience, >>access to print, etc. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.