Wow!! Jake, that answers my question. That is a *tough* policy. I assume that means from library catalogs, too, since they are PW's or LJ's reviews. I hope that is relaxed a little bit at some point--just a little, to allow a sentence or three. G. Cindy --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello Maithe, > > Pratik is correct in that Bookshare has set a policy > that for its website > superceeds what the Fair Use provision of the > copyright law allows. You are > correct that citing your source avoids plagiarism, > but that doesn't bipass > the policy smile. Here's some excerpts from the > volunteer manual. As you can > see, we're happy for volunteers to use material > written as part of the book, > but we cannot accept synopses copied from online > booksellers that weren't > part of the original book. > > "Do not use any part of a quote or a review that has > been attributed to a > person, magazine, or newspaper, or a review from an > on-line bookseller's > website such as Amazon.com or Barnes & Noble." > > "SUGGESTED LONGER SYNOPSIS. This field may contain a > longer synopsis for the > book, either in the submitter's own words or taken > from the book jacket. If > the longer synopsis is copied from the book, the > submitter should state this > clearly. Synopsis material may not be drawn from > sources such as online > booksellers. The synopsis should be less than 500 > words long. Writing the > synopsis ahead of time in a word processor will > allow it to be spell checked > before it is copied and pasted into the field." > > If we are able to change this policy in future, we > will certainly let our > Volunteer community be among the first to know! > > Sincerely, > Jake > > Jake Brownell > jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:45 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quoting synopses from > other sources > > > > Pratik, > > > > There is no plagerism going on. I cite where I > get the synopsis from and > > therefore, give credit where credit is due. Also, > many of the same > > synopses being used on B&N and Amazon come > directly from the book. I am > > not "stealing" or taking credit for the small > description being quoted. > > It is very hard to write any type of synopsis > especially when one has not > > read the material. > > > > Maithe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:38 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quoting synopses > from other sources > > > > > >>I strongly disagree here, not necessarily with the > assertion that Fair use > >>might apply. However I will say that the use of > the "fair use" argument > >>is, at the very least, controversial. I cannot > let Bookshare be > >>jeopardize by any potential controversy. I would > highly, highly recommend > >>that outside sources not be used in synopsis. > Bookshare's policies have > >>been generated in consultation with attorneys and > the publishing industry. > >>They have been carefully developed to ensure that > nothing will interrupt > >>the service. Please abide by Bookshare's policies > here. While we might > >>question Bookshare's other policies that seem > unfair, this policy and > >>others related to copyright, are not those that we > should question. > >>Having worked with publishers, I can say that > these are complicated issues > >>and we are not equipped to deal with them. In > fact, I know many attorneys > >>who are not equipped to deal with them. > >> > >> Pratik > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Grandma Cindy > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:23 PM > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Quoting synopses from > other sources > >> > >> There was quite a discussion about this a while > ago. I > >> read the copyright law, i.e., the part that > pertains > >> to this question, and it seems to me that as long > as > >> only a few sentences are taken and the source > quoted, > >> and the quote put in quotation marks, there's no > >> problem. > >> > >> I just checked again, and I interpret the > following to > >> mean that if we just take a few sentences or even > a > >> short paragraph we're o.k. > >> http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html > >> > >> We're using it for "nonprofit educational > purposes" > >> we're not adversely affecting the potential > marked > >> value of the oopyrighted work--in fact, quite the > >> contrary. And we're "quoting excerpts in a > review.." > >> (sort of. smile > >> > >> > >> "Although fair use was not mentioned in the > previous > >> copyright law, the doctrine has developed through > a > >> substantial number of court decisions over the > years. > >> This doctrine has been codified in section 107 of > the > >> copyright law. > >> > >> Section 107 contains a list of the various > purposes > >> for which the reproduction of a particular work > may be > >> considered ââ?¬Å?fair,ââ?¬Â? such as criticism, > comment, > >> news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and > research. > >> Section 107 also sets out four factors to be > >> considered in determining whether or not a > particular > >> use is fair: > >> > >> 1. > >> > >> the purpose and character of the use, > including > >> whether such use is of commercial nature or is > for > >> nonprofit educational purposes; > >> 2. > >> > >> the nature of the copyrighted work; > >> 3. > >> > >> amount and substantiality of the portion > used in > >> relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and > >> 4. the effect of the use upon the potential > market > >> for or value of the copyrighted work. > >> > >> The distinction between ââ?¬Å?fair useââ?¬Â? > and > >> infringement may be unclear and not easily > defined. > >> There is no specific number of words, lines, or > notes > >> that may safely be taken without permission. > >> Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted > material > >> does not substitute for obtaining permission. > >> > >> The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on > the > >> General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites > >> examples of activities that courts have regarded > as > >> fair use: ââ?¬Å?quotation of excerpts in a > review or > >> criticism for purposes of illustration or > comment; > >> quotation of short passages in a scholarly or > >> technical work, for illustration or clarification > of > >> the author's observations; use in a parody of > some of > >> the content of the work parodied; summary of an > >> address or article, with brief quotations, in a > news > >> report; reproduction by a library of a portion of > a > >> work to replace part of a damaged copy; > reproduction > >> by a teacher or student of a small part of a work > to > >> illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in > >> legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; > >> incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a > newsreel > >> or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of > an > >> event being reported.ââ?¬Â? > >> > >> G.Cindy > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> ***WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE > BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS > >> AVAILABLE AT > >> > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > >> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > >> > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > >> > >> A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS > AVAILABLE AT > >> > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/scanning.html > >> > >> Jake's site for useful links: > http://www.jbrownell.com/bkslinks.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? > >> Find them fast with Yahoo! 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