[bksvol-discuss] Re: Quoting synopses from other sources

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:45:01 -0800 (PST)

Wow!! Jake, that answers my question. That is a
*tough* policy. I assume that means from library
catalogs, too, since they are PW's or LJ's reviews.

I hope that is relaxed a little bit at some
point--just a little, to allow a sentence or three.

G. Cindy

--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello Maithe,
> 
> Pratik is correct in that Bookshare has set a policy
> that for its website 
> superceeds what the Fair Use provision of the
> copyright law allows. You are 
> correct that citing your source avoids plagiarism,
> but that doesn't bipass 
> the policy smile. Here's some excerpts from the
> volunteer manual. As you can 
> see, we're happy for volunteers to use material
> written as part of the book, 
> but we cannot accept synopses copied from online
> booksellers that weren't 
> part of the original book.
> 
> "Do not use any part of a quote or a review that has
> been attributed to a 
> person, magazine, or newspaper, or a review from an
> on-line bookseller's 
> website such as Amazon.com or Barnes & Noble."
> 
> "SUGGESTED LONGER SYNOPSIS. This field may contain a
> longer synopsis for the 
> book, either in the submitter's own words or taken
> from the book jacket. If 
> the longer synopsis is copied from the book, the
> submitter should state this 
> clearly. Synopsis material may not be drawn from
> sources such as online 
> booksellers. The synopsis should be less than 500
> words long. Writing the 
> synopsis ahead of time in a word processor will
> allow it to be spell checked 
> before it is copied and pasted into the field."
> 
> If we are able to change this policy in future, we
> will certainly let our 
> Volunteer community be among the first to know!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brownell
> jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:45 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quoting synopses from
> other sources
> 
> 
> > Pratik,
> >
> > There is no plagerism going on.  I cite where I
> get the synopsis from and 
> > therefore, give credit where credit is due.  Also,
> many of the same 
> > synopses being used on B&N and Amazon come
> directly from the book.  I am 
> > not "stealing" or taking credit for the small
> description being quoted. 
> > It is very hard to write any type of synopsis
> especially when one has not 
> > read the material.
> >
> > Maithe
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:38 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quoting synopses
> from other sources
> >
> >
> >>I strongly disagree here, not necessarily with the
> assertion that Fair use 
> >>might apply.  However I will  say that the use of
> the "fair use" argument 
> >>is, at the very least, controversial.  I cannot
> let Bookshare be 
> >>jeopardize by any potential controversy. I would
> highly, highly recommend 
> >>that outside sources not be used in synopsis.
> Bookshare's policies have 
> >>been generated in consultation with attorneys and
> the publishing industry. 
> >>They have been carefully developed to ensure that
> nothing will interrupt 
> >>the service. Please abide by Bookshare's policies
> here.  While we might 
> >>question Bookshare's other policies that seem
> unfair, this policy and 
> >>others related to copyright, are not those that we
> should question. 
> >>Having worked with publishers, I can say that
> these are complicated issues 
> >>and we are not equipped to deal with them.  In
> fact, I know many attorneys 
> >>who are not equipped to deal with them.
> >>
> >> Pratik
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:23 PM
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Quoting synopses from
> other sources
> >>
> >> There was quite a discussion about this a while
> ago. I
> >> read the copyright law, i.e., the part that
> pertains
> >> to this question, and it seems to me that as long
> as
> >> only a few sentences are taken and the source
> quoted,
> >> and the quote put in quotation marks, there's no
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> I just checked again, and I interpret the
> following to
> >> mean that if we just take a few sentences or even
> a
> >> short paragraph we're o.k.
> >> http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
> >>
> >> We're using it for "nonprofit educational
> purposes"
> >> we're not adversely affecting the potential
> marked
> >> value of the oopyrighted work--in fact, quite the
> >> contrary. And we're "quoting excerpts in a
> review.."
> >> (sort of. smile
> >>
> >>
> >> "Although fair use was not mentioned in the
> previous
> >> copyright law, the doctrine has developed through
> a
> >> substantial number of court decisions over the
> years.
> >> This doctrine has been codified in section 107 of
> the
> >> copyright law.
> >>
> >> Section 107 contains a list of the various
> purposes
> >> for which the reproduction of a particular work
> may be
> >> considered ââ?¬Å?fair,ââ?¬Â? such as criticism,
> comment,
> >> news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and
> research.
> >> Section 107 also sets out four factors to be
> >> considered in determining whether or not a
> particular
> >> use is fair:
> >>
> >>   1.
> >>
> >>      the purpose and character of the use,
> including
> >> whether such use is of commercial nature or is
> for
> >> nonprofit educational purposes;
> >>   2.
> >>
> >>      the nature of the copyrighted work;
> >>   3.
> >>
> >>      amount and substantiality of the portion
> used in
> >> relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
> >>   4. the effect of the use upon the potential
> market
> >> for or value of the copyrighted work.
> >>
> >> The distinction between ââ?¬Å?fair useââ?¬Â?
> and
> >> infringement may be unclear and not easily
> defined.
> >> There is no specific number of words, lines, or
> notes
> >> that may safely be taken without permission.
> >> Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted
> material
> >> does not substitute for obtaining permission.
> >>
> >> The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on
> the
> >> General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites
> >> examples of activities that courts have regarded
> as
> >> fair use: ââ?¬Å?quotation of excerpts in a
> review or
> >> criticism for purposes of illustration or
> comment;
> >> quotation of short passages in a scholarly or
> >> technical work, for illustration or clarification
> of
> >> the author's observations; use in a parody of
> some of
> >> the content of the work parodied; summary of an
> >> address or article, with brief quotations, in a
> news
> >> report; reproduction by a library of a portion of
> a
> >> work to replace part of a damaged copy;
> reproduction
> >> by a teacher or student of a small part of a work
> to
> >> illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in
> >> legislative or judicial proceedings or reports;
> >> incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a
> newsreel
> >> or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of
> an
> >> event being reported.�
> >>
> >> G.Cindy
> >>
> >>
> >>>
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