[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: obsolescence and planned obsolescence
- From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:09:41 -0500
I will have to agree with you on this point. I am not sure, though,
that planned obsolescence has the same meaning as obsolescence with a
modifying adjective. Take a look at the fashion industry. There is no
reason why this year's fashions are any better than last year's
fashions except for the people who make money from selling clothing.
Also, I recently heard about one of the original light bulbs which is
still shining brightly after well over a hundred years. Light bulb
makers learned very quickly that in the interests of their long-term
profits it would not be a good idea to make light bulbs that would
last a very long time. I tend to think that the term planned
obsolescence refers to a particular type of scam rather than to a
particular type of obsolescence.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Roger,
>
> I'll take issue with your definition of "obsolescence" meaning that something
> better replaces the obsolete item. smile--yes, in some cases; refrigerators
> are an improvement over ice boxes, though perhaps not as much fun for kids
> when the iceman came. But we just bought a new waffle iron and had to return
> it because the handle broke on first attempted use. And it was a Krupp!
> Expensive. Then we found the one my mother had, that grew up with, and after
> it was cleaned up, it's worked beautifully. Our refrigerator, which we've had
> for over 21 years, finally was wearing out, or so it told us when we returned
> from a brief trip (it was growling and making awful noises), so we ordered a
> new one. Fortunately, perhaps knowing that it was going to be replaced in two
> weeks and would have a well-earned rest, the old one continued working until
> the new one came--but I've read stories of the newer models breaking down.
>
> Perhaps it's because companies realized that if something is made to last,
> they can't make as much money as if things had to be replaced
> periodically--hence, the phrase "planned obsolescence," which we've
> experienced with toaster-ovens--I can't even remember how many we've had to
> replace in our 43 years of marriage--and microwave ovens.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: FW: Google
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 7:57 AM
>> Actually, I would think that we should hope for the
>> obsolescence of
>> everything we use. Obsolescence means that something better
>> has
>> replaced it. Shouldn't we all be striving for a better
>> way?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Tracy Carcione
>> <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Sue,
>> > NLS and Bookshare would become obsolete if all print
>> books were easily
>> > accessible. Something I think is greatly to be
>> desired, but not likely to
>> > happen any time soon.
>> > Though I do love hardcopy braille, and only NLS
>> provides that on a lending
>> > basis.
>> > Tracy
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I cannot imagine why anyone would say they hope
>> NLS and Bookshare will
>> >> become obsolete.
>> >>
>> >> Sue S.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Monica Willyard"
>> <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:28 PM
>> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: FW: Google
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I don't think Bookshare will become obsolete
>> in part because Google isn't
>> >> scanning modern books of popular interest. Most of
>> their books are older
>> >> and/or more academic in scope. While we'd be
>> able to read out of print
>> >> books
>> >> on Google, we'd still need Bookshare to read
>> current bestsellers and other
>> >> recent content, books written in the past 20 years
>> or so. That could
>> >> change,
>> >> of course, but I doubt it would be within the next
>> five years. With 35
>> >> million books available in print right now, I
>> think there is plenty of
>> >> room
>> >> for Bookshare. Finally, Bookshare's business
>> model is different from how
>> >> Google Books works, and I think the two can be
>> compatible and will
>> >> supplement each other over time.
>> >>
>> >> Monica Willyard
>> >>
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