Chris and Julie, It's possible that you, Chris, will have the same problem uploading in rtf the book you downloaded as KEZ that I had in uploading the txt book I'd downloaded as rtf. It would only accept the book in the same format that it had been downloaded in, and, since I'd validated it, carefully, in Word and then saved in rtf, when I uploaded in txt I found the formatting had totally changed. So I submitted the book in rtf and asked that it replace the txt version. What I suggest you do, after converting to rtf or Word, is work in that, reject the KEZ format and then submit your work in rtf. I think the bookshare organization converts all books to braille, daisy, KEz, et al -- maybe not to all the formats you guys use but to a couple or several, so members have a choice. Liz from Seattle, if I remember correctly, ISBN numbers didn't come into being until the mid-80's. I remember as a volunteer at my daughters' high school spending hours doing something with labels that the numbers on them, but I don't remember exactly what. Cindy- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover