Hi, Tracy, well I'm going to save your message and I can tell you that it's a mystery to me as to how this happened because I thought everything was correct. Jaws didn't tell me about huge letters in a word nor do I know anything about paragraph marks and as for garbage characters, I thought I removed them. I have a feeling I don't care a fig about the visual stuff as I can't see them, but I think a sighted person who does see that can get rid of that with my blessing so that Jack of Kinrowan can be a better-looking file. I'll ask for this to be done if anyone is willing to do what I right now don't know how to do. Regards, Kim -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:42 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Got feedback and need help to follow suggestions Hi Kim. Well, here goes. I proofread in Word, like you, and I use Jaws. Don't know what you use. >Important: >1. Chapter 12 begins on page 118. Chapter 14 begins on page 140. >But there's no chapter that is marked Chapter 13. You could only tell this by either reading the whole book, or by searching for the word Chapter and making sure they are all present and correct. >2. Font sizes In Jaws (and NVDA), insert-f will tell you the font. I usually spot-check a few. If a font is wrong, select the text, hit alt-o for the format menu. Font is the first dialog. Hit enter, tab twice to size, and adjust it to what you think it should be. You could select the entire document and change the font size, but then you lose the differences in font size between the headers and the body of the text. >Trivial (as in: don't worry about it!) >1. the 3rd page of the file is still an upper case Roman numeral "III". So? >2. no page number on p. 34. Page through the whole book and make sure all pages in the body of the text have numbers. Title pages, contents, dedication, and such often do not have numbers, and I leave them like that. It's not my place as a proofreader to add numbers that aren't there, except where they're omitted on the first page of a chapter. >3. there are several tab characters in the file. In Word, you can find and replace on tab characters. Find ^t, and manually delete it, or: Do control-h to open find and replace. Tab to More and hit enter. Tab to Special and arrow down until you find the character you're interested in. Hit enter. Then you can tab to the replace box and either put in a space or leave it blank. Then, if you're bold, you can choose Replace All! This statement isn't actually true though, I think. Some tables are delimited by tabs, and removing all tabs, as Rick suggests, would make a mess. >4. a number of the chapter headings have numbers whose "Position" has been "lowered", rather than having "normal" positioning. The numbers appear as if they are subscript, but they are not subscript. One must go to the "Character Spacing" tab of the Font dialog to see this. Examples of this are for the chapter headings of chapters 2, 5, 6 and 12. Beats me, and I don't care. >5. also for many of the chapter headings, the word "Chapter" is in "Small Caps", which we do not want. Hitting insert-numpad 5 in Jaws twice quickly will spell any word, and will raise pitch of any capital letter. Or you could go to the Find dialog, tab to more, hit enter, and check the box to search for specific case, then search for lower-case chapter. >6. don't do any indenting, of any kind, ever. Said another way, >always remove all indenting from the scan. On p. 164, the chapter heading has a "First line indent". Don't remove individual instances of indenting. Instead, select the entire document and uncheck various indenting settings in the Paragraph dialog. Don't much know, don't much care. 7. as you probably know, the first lines at the beginning of each chapter often have paragraph marks that shouldn't be there. This is often because the very first letter of the very first word of a new chapter is a "drop cap", or a huge letter. After the text of Chapter 11 begins, the first 3 paragraph marks should not be there. Don't much know, don't much care. Though I do try to make those first letters match up with the rest of the text, and delete extraneous blank lines above the first sentence. >8. There are several garbage characters in the first sentence of page >20, immediately after the words "three nights ago". Try searching for the usual suspects, like @ ~ \ etc. These last several are not big deals though. HTH. Tracy To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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