[bksvol-discuss] Re: Got feedback and need help to follow suggestions

  • From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:09:16 -0700

Hi, Tracy, well I'm going to save your message and I can tell you that it's
a mystery to me as to how this happened because I thought everything was
correct. Jaws didn't tell me about huge letters in a word nor do I know
anything about paragraph marks and as for garbage characters, I thought I
removed them. I have a feeling I don't care a fig about the visual stuff as
I can't see them, but I think a sighted person who does see that can get rid
of that with my blessing so that Jack of Kinrowan can be a better-looking
file. I'll ask for this to be done if anyone is willing to do what I right
now don't know how to do. Regards, Kim 

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:42 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Got feedback and need help to follow
suggestions

Hi Kim.
Well, here goes.  I proofread in Word, like you, and I use Jaws.  Don't know
what you use.

>Important:
>1. Chapter 12 begins on page 118.  Chapter 14 begins on page 140.
>But there's no chapter that is marked Chapter 13.

You could only tell this by either reading the whole book, or by searching
for the word Chapter and making sure they are all present and correct.

>2. Font sizes

In Jaws (and NVDA), insert-f will tell you the font.  I usually spot-check a
few.  If a font is wrong, select the text, hit alt-o for the format menu.
Font is the first dialog.  Hit enter, tab twice to size, and adjust it to
what you think it should be.
You could select the entire document and change the font size, but then you
lose the differences in font size between the headers and the body of the
text.

>Trivial (as in: don't worry about it!)

>1.  the 3rd page of the file is still an upper case Roman numeral "III".

So?

>2.  no page number on p. 34.

Page through the whole book and make sure all pages in the body of the text
have numbers. Title pages, contents, dedication, and such often do not have
numbers, and I leave them like that. It's not my place as a proofreader to
add numbers that aren't there, except where they're omitted on the first
page of a chapter.


>3.  there are several tab characters in the file.

In Word, you can find and replace on tab characters.  Find ^t, and manually
delete it, or:
Do control-h to open find and replace.  Tab to More and hit enter.  Tab to
Special and arrow down until you find the character you're interested in. 
Hit enter. Then you can tab to the replace box and either put in a space or
leave it blank.  Then, if you're bold, you can choose Replace All!

This statement isn't actually true though, I think.  Some tables are
delimited by tabs, and removing all tabs, as Rick suggests, would make a
mess.


>4.  a number of the chapter headings have numbers whose "Position" has
been "lowered", rather than having "normal" positioning.  The numbers appear
as if they are subscript, but they are not subscript.  One must go to the
"Character Spacing" tab of the Font dialog to see this.  Examples of this
are for the chapter headings of chapters 2, 5, 6 and 12.

Beats me, and I don't care.

>5.  also for many of the chapter headings, the word "Chapter" is in
"Small Caps", which we do not want.

Hitting insert-numpad 5 in Jaws twice quickly will spell any word, and will
raise pitch of any capital letter.  Or you could go to the Find dialog, tab
to more, hit enter, and check the box to search for specific case, then
search for lower-case chapter.

>6.  don't do any indenting, of any kind, ever.  Said another way, 
>always
remove all indenting from the scan.  On p. 164, the chapter heading has a
"First line indent".  Don't remove individual instances of indenting.
Instead, select the entire document and uncheck various indenting settings
in the Paragraph dialog.

Don't much know, don't much care.

7.  as you probably know, the first lines at the beginning of each chapter
often have paragraph marks that shouldn't be there.  This is often because
the very first letter of the very first word of a new chapter is a "drop
cap", or a huge letter.  After the text of Chapter 11 begins, the first 3
paragraph marks should not be there.

Don't much know, don't much care.  Though I do try to make those first
letters match up with the rest of the text, and delete extraneous blank
lines above the first sentence.

>8. There are several garbage characters in the first sentence of page 
>20,
immediately after the words "three nights ago".

Try searching for the usual suspects, like @ ~ \ etc.

These last several are not big deals though.

HTH.
Tracy



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