This is sort of on-topic for Arizona observers, who often claim that the presence of Phoenix affects the number and intensity of summer storms=2E = The Phoenix National Weather Service office Web site has a good summary of the= local and surrounding effects of the heat island on the monsoon=2E http://www=2Ewrh=2Enoaa=2Egov/psr/general/monsoon/MonsoonPMA=2Ephp And here is my summary version: - The heat island was first described in 1921, when the metropolitan area bustled with 80,000 residents=2E - Everybody knows that the Phoenix nighttime lows have increased (by 7F to= 13F since 1961), but the same dataset shows the daytime highs decreasing b= y 0F to 4F=2E They attribute it to the moderating effect of unnatural vegetation=2E The "surrounding rural area" weather station that was used = for comparison to Phoenix is in the town of Maricopa, which has been doing its= best to create its own heat island in the past few years=2E - The contour maps of Valley rainfall do not support any of the anecdotal claims of "hot spots" for monsoon storms=2E It simply increases with elevation with a good correlation=2E - And now the punch line: a plot of precipitation in Phoenix over 112 year= s shows no upward or downward trend in precipitation as the population has increased=2E Tom -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting=2Ecom - Premium Microsoft=AE Windows=AE and Linux web and applic= ation hosting - http://link=2Emyhosting=2Ecom/myhosting -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.