Hi Wayne, Yes, it is possible to see the "contrail" (condensation trail) or plume of the rocket launches from Vandenberg. You will want to be at a location with a clear Western horizon, of course. (See notes below for azimuth viewing angle from Phoenix.) Many of the launches get up to as much as 20 to 30 degrees above the horizon, as seen from Phoenix. Typically it is possible to see the "staging" as the upper rocket stages separate and fire. Some launches, for polar orbits, go strongly North or South shortly after launch. Many recon satellites are designed that way, so that they can view most of the Earth's surface (as the Earth rotates beneath the orbit in space). This satellite is headed for a polar orbit, which of course is one of the main reason why launches are conducted from Vandenberg AFB -- the launch trajectory goes over water in both directions. (The other reason for launches from Vandenberg being for strategic ballistic missile tests, which typically re-enter and impact at the Ronald Reagan Test Range in the Kwajalein Archipelago on the other side of the Pacific.) A good web page for more information about upcoming Vandenberg launches is here: http://www.spacearchive.info/ Information about visibility of the launches, etc. can be found here: http://www.spacearchive.info/vafbview.htm Great circle azimuth angles and distances from one point to another on Earth can be calculated here: http://www.satsig.net/ssazran.htm For a typical Phoenix position, lat 33.36 N, long 248.26 E (or -111.74 W), I get the following for Vandenberg AFB (near Lompoc, CA): Azimuth (degrees) = 283.29 (true) or 273.69 (mag N), Range = 820.7 km or 509.9 miles. Good viewing! Check out the Comet while you are up if it is clear ! Gene Lucas (17250) Wayne Westlake wrote: > Apologies, the launch time is 4:51 *EST*, so 2:51 MST. > Wayne > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Wayne Westlake <24launch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > At 4:51 tomorrow (Tues) morning NASA is launching the Orbiting Carbon > Observatory spacecraft from Vandenberg AFB in California. > Weather permitting, would any of the launch be visible from Phoenix? > Regards, > Wayne Westlake > > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.