Mike is referring to the magnitude sequence that appeared in Brian Skiff's article in the September issue of S&T. I spent a half hour or so with my 20-inch Dobsonian on a tracking platform (a necessity for this kind of observation). I was disappointed to only reach magnitude 17.1. If I remember correctly, there was a magnitude 16.8 star, and I was able to see it all of the time. I put 17.1 as the limit, as I could only see it about one-fourth of the time. I think the next one down in the sequence was 17.4 or 17.6, and I had no luck with it. Frank Kraljic did the same thing for a similar length of time with his 10-inch Spooner Newtonian, also on a tracking platform. He was able to see the magnitude 16.1 star. If you simply take the square of the ratio of our two apertures, my mirror should gather 4 times as much light as Frank's. he should see 1.5 magnitudes fainter [(2.512)^1.5 ~ 4]. So Frank should be able to see a magnitude 17.7 star in my scope. I attribute my disappointing result to: 1 - Poor optics in the 20-inch, which were demonstrated later that night by a lousy view of Saturn. At 400x, the star discs are larger than they could be with good optics, so you can't see as faint. 2 - Frank's eyes are 17 years younger than mine. I want the answer to be #1, of course. Tom > Hi Tom, > Meant to ask how your survey of Brian's magnitude sequence around M57 worked > out. I was going to try this also after hearing you mention it but got busy > visiting and forgot. :) It would be interesting to know if viewing Jupiter > or Saturn with bigger aperture affects dark adaptation to a noticeable > degree that could be determined by the sequence survey. > --Mike Spooner --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.