To all, after having watched the weather for several days and reviewed all the messages that have come across on this list, I have decided against going to the, long awaited, Mormon Mountain Star Stare. Yes it is a disappointment, but can we wait until next year? Although Cherry Rd. looks like it might be available I'll not make that session either. Nor will Vekol Rd be attempted. What I have decided to do is stay home and do some tweaking on my telescope, to bring it back into mechanical alignment. Attempting this at any of the above mentioned star parties may not be possible as the scope may not even be able to be setup. Even if it is that bad here in Phoenix and my backyard can't be used, there's always the living room or lab. BTW, in the past couple of days I've heard Orme Rd. mentioned twice; is there a spot down that road that could be used for a star party? In the past couple of decades it has been ignored, primarily because of the school, which is about five miles off the highway. Clear skies (yeah right!) aj -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.