Thanks Andrew. Treasure park is where we were. I was led to believe that the elevation was 9100-9200 feet. In any event, arriving in the dark we did not want to venture out into the overgrown field without a daylight review. We ended up observing from one of campsites on the perimeter of said field and we are looking forward to a return visit at a future date. Cheers, Geoff You might try Treasure Park, not quite as high at about 8900ft, but it is a ~40acre meadow that faces downhill to the south making it much more suitable for observing. It is an undeveloped camping area and doesn't have the facilitied that the main campground has. Check http://www.siowl.com/index.html?ObservingSites/obssites.html for more information (select Mt. Graham) Andrew ___________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 250MB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.