I am trying to reduce the overall complexity of my imaging set up and would like to eliminate my 70mm guide scope and any induced flexure. I am currently shooting through an 80mm ED scope and 8" f/4 scope and using a second scope for guiding with an Orion AutoGuider. I am concerned with flexure in my setup. The last time I used an off-axis guider was with my Meade LX200. I found it impossible to guide because my guide start looked like 'seagulls' and were hard to locate. Would it be worthwhile to try off-axis guiders again? Would I be able to get enough light from the pick-off prism to guide off of? If so; what off-axis guider should I try? Jim EVAC/SAC -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.