Being generally absent-minded, I left a duffle bag containing _all_ of my warm observing clothes at Sunglow Ranch after the night of the Leonids. Thursday night I picked them up, and decided to stay at the ranch to view the Geminids. I was expecting to be jaded after the great display a month earlier, but I was not disappointed. I have a hard time believing the shower was not an above-average display. The only other astronomer at the site was optics pundit Peter Cerravolo, who made the trip from Ottawa, presumably for Arizona's balmy December temeperatures. We spent half the time conversing in a heated room, but also enjoyed several good hours of great meteor observing. Between midnight and 2 a.m., I couldn't count higher than 15 seconds without seeing a Geminid. Typically the interval was more near 10 seconds. Even if I factor in an "overestimate rate factor" gleaned from my experience with the Leonids, the rate had to have been well in excess of 100 per hour. I saw the Geminids as yellow or white, with many slow moving, bright meteors. Not one of them was brighter than Jupiter, and none would qualify as a bolide. Also unlike the Leonids, not one Geminid left a significant train. At 2:00, my frost-covered thermometer was reading 15F, making this the coldest night in which I have done prolonged observing. We are truly spoiled. Tom --- Tom Polakis Tempe, AZ Arizona Sky Pages http://www.psiaz.com/polakis/ --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.