We were up in the Payson area (about 17 miles east) on Manday (6/27) doing a program for some scouts and the comet was visible as a very, very faint fuzz in my 80 mm finder, but clearly visible in my C11 with a 30mm eyepiece....even the scouts and their parents were able to identify it. The key was a very clear, dark sky. From the Glendale area in my 12.5 inch dob I still have not seen it. Tony LaConte -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Randy Peterson Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:15 AM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Fw:Comet Tempel Jeff, I agree! This comet is very illusive! The couple of times I have seen it was when I put in the RA and Dec in my go-to scope and studied the field till I found it. There doesn't seem to be much of a tail for easy identification. At the GCSP, I forgot to print out a finder map for each night. I knew the constellation it was in, but panning the constellation left me empty-handed. I am planning to go to a relatively dark sky site by AZ City that night. Hopefully it will be readily visible from there. I have read articles that say the comet will be about 8th magnitude at the time of impact. Looks to me like it is still close to 10th magnitude the few times I have seen it. I also keep reading articles about how it may brighten to naked-eye visibility when impact occurs. I'll be totally amazed if that happens. As faint as it is now, I'm sure it will brighten upon impact, but I'll bet a scope or good binoculars will be needed to see anything even after impact. Several non-astronomers I have talked to recently are under the belief that they will be able to stare without optical aid at the SW sky after impact and be able to see something shining in the sky. This is a result of newspaper articles they have read. Don't think so. Good observing! Randy Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Hopkins" <phxjeff@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: An 80 degree day?/Comet Tempel >I was out visually observing tonight between 10 - 11 PM MST trying to >find comet Tempel. The sky was fairly dark and clear on the west side >of Phoenix. Much better than a few nights ago.In fact better than I >have seen it n a long time. I know I was looking right at the comet, >but could not see it. I tried a 40mm eyepiece with my C-8 plus a 6.3 >focal reducer and Orion Sky Glow filter. I also tried various >combinations and without anything other than the eyepiece. I also >tried a 28 mm eyepiece. No luck. Just dark sky with some faint stars. > > To give a comparison of the sky, M57, while nearly directly overhead, > was actually bright. Unless the comet brightens significantly, I do > not think it will be seen from the Phoenix area. I believe true dark > skies wil be needed to see anything of the deep impact event Sunday > night. > > Jeff -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.