I'm having a crazy attack and am trying to plan on a trip to Five Mile Meadow beginning Thursday evening and returning Sunday morning. Steve Coe says he's already packed and only needs to put gas in his tank for Thursday. I'm trying to work out the details for Thursday night - work and all. Otherwise I'll show up Friday! In addition of normal weather checking we will have to check the Coconino Forest site for closures, it isn't clear if it will be open for us to use. I found this site to be helpful on closures this past weekend, http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/ read the Fire Restriction and click on "click here" for the link to a map of the fire restrictions and the "Official Closure Map." Important: the one major restriction from the ranger station is "do not drive into the middle of the meadow"! Stay near the tree line. I'll post direction to the site later but wanted to let everyone know that there are those of us that are really crazy and are already planing on going up there. All interested folks are invited. Hoping for more clear skies, AJ Crayon -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.