Hi,
I know that KAV and KIS are two different programs. KIS being the Internet
Suite and KAV being the Antivirus application. However, I am still finding much
to my own disappointment various applications on my laptop that are now working
better or again since uninstalling Kaspersky Internet Security. I don't know
whether to be angry at Kaspersky or happy that I can once again use these other
applications. It never even occurred to me that some of these issues were
related. It was never an issue where making a rule or an exception would have
fixed the problem. So I am both happy that KIS is off my system and a little
anxious that right now all I am using is Windows Defender and Windows firewall.
And I am definitely waiting until the eleventh or later to install the
Creator's Update.
Merv
-----Original Message-----
From: av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 10:13 PM
To: av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [av-a11y] Re: Warning to Kaspersky Users Upgrading to Windows 10
Creators' Update
Hi,
Oh my word I think I'm glad I'm waiting for it to appear in Windows Update
might be problems enough doing it that way and I think I'm also glad that
kaspersky is gone from me at this point. but I totally empathize with this
annoyance and I'm not sure how I'd feel about it either. Do keep us posted on a
fix should it materialize.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 9:10 PM
To: av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [av-a11y] Warning to Kaspersky Users Upgrading to Windows 10 Creators'
Update
While the Windows 10 Creators' Update isn't officially rolling out until April
11, Microsoft has released it early via their Windows Update Assistant Tool for
those brave souls who just can't wait until April 11 to install it. I'm not
sure if I'm a brave soul or just a foolish and impatient one but I decided to
install the update this morning. I had a few hiccups which were eventually
solved. However, one thing that I noticed was that Windows Defender, now
wrapped up in something called the Windows Defender Security Center, was
enabled. As I'd prefer that Kaspersky protect my system I disabled WDSc but
then I was warned that I had no antivirus program protecting my system.
Confused, I checked Kaspersky and it did seem to be fully enabled. I even
tested it by downloading Eicar, which is, essentially, a fake antivirus
program, a program which is not truly a virus but which makes your antivirus
program think it's an infected file, which you can freely try by going to
www.eicar.org.
Anyway, Kaspersky picked it up and seemed very active, but the Creators Update
doesn't actually see it as a valid antivirus program. Once I turned off WDSC,
restarting my computer turns it right back on again, since Windows thinks that
I have no protection and so it starts WDSC up as a default. I have mixed
feelings about this oddity. I acknowledge that I'm running the Creators Update
of Windows 10 before Microsoft really intends the general public to use it,
although if they really felt that way they shouldn't release it publicly in the
first place.
However, one could argue in Kaspersky's favor that they can't be held
responsible for not fully working with an update which isn't even officially
out yet and I have a small bit of agreement with this. On the other hand, the
Creators Update has been out for a while for Windows insiders and I can't help
but wonder, considering this, why it's actually taken Kaspersky this long to
fix this. Then again, I know that code can change overnight and perhaps
Creators introduced something at the last minute which caused it not to play
nice with Kaspersky.
I did some research and came up with the following article from Kaspersky's
support site. As I recall, Kaspersky had similar issues when Windows 10 was
first released. Here's the article.
Limitations in Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2017 after upgrade to Windows 10 Creators
Update (Redstone 2) Back to "Windows 10 support"
2017 Mar 20 ID: 12931
If you upgrade to Windows 10 or install Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2017 on Windows 10
Creators Update (Redstone 2), at the first startup Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2017
will run the adaptation process. During this process, protection will be
paused: only File Anti-Virus and Self-Defense of files and registry will be
functioning. The interface will be temporarily unavailable.
After the process has been completed, protection will resume, but the following
component may work with limitations if the drivers do not support Windows 10:
• Self-Defense of the product UI and protection of the product's processes at
their startup.
• System Watcher.
• Detection and disinfection of malware in the system memory.
• Protection against cryptolockers and ransomware.
• Protection against the attacks of the type Time-of-Check Time-of-Use (TOCTOU).
Microsoft Edge does not support the On-Screen Keyboard and the Kaspersky
Protection extension in Kaspersky Lab products.
